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Gomedome,
Your disdain for the instutionalized is even more appealing.
posted by
Blanche.
on February 20, 2005 at 7:09 PM
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mary_x -- nice try but you are confusing a few subtle issues
Someone wanting to share something that they have found is a far cry from institutionalized, even sanctioned condescention and ostracism. Then you go one step further to demonstrate for us exactly what I mean in your second paragraph. Perpetual screw ups and the mentally challenged are somehow luckier than I am because they have found hope? Suggesting that Jesus is the only means of attaining a sense of hope in one's life is just insulting to a non Christian. Somehow I must resign myself to being a target for the disdain of others because Jesus helped them straighten out their lives? Uh, no thanx, I refuse to be treated as a second class citizen to placate the beliefs of others.
posted by
gomedome
on February 20, 2005 at 4:32 PM
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Gomedome,
you mention that you have run a group home for retarded girls, met criminals and others who talk about their faith. Clearly, from your perspective, if their beliefs worked for them, they would be productive, clean-living individuals. Also, you sound as though you can never picture yourself in their position, making the "bad life choices" that put them in that position.
But, you knnow, in some way these people are luckier than you are, by far, because whatever desperate situation they've been in, whether by their own failures or by birth, they've experienced something that gives them hope.
No Christian who has been through living hell and lived to tell about it, is going to say that Jesus Christ was a nice guy and a good role model, because when you've been through hell and lived to tell about it, the only thing that we want to tell the world is what kept us going, pulled us from the wreckage. A miracle is an event or series of events, too fortuitously timed, and happening too many times to be coincidence.
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posted by
Blanche.
on February 20, 2005 at 2:18 PM
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Justsouno -- I am going to take that as a compliment and thank you for
saying such a thing. Jesus Christ, though I do not believe he was the son of God, is a very good role model or a person to try to pattern one's philosophies after. Much the same could be said for Mohandis Ghandi and other great men who have influenced our modern day thinking with pacifism and worthy ideals. As for my own personal bliss, that is a bit of an overstatement. Unwavering confidence in what I believe is a better way to put it. Before this comment turns into a post I will cut it off but look for this train of thought to continue in my next posting.
posted by
gomedome
on February 20, 2005 at 12:40 PM
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Experience -- that is exactly as I view it
Man created God in his own image yet refuses to admit that he has done so. The minute one religion claims to be the right religion or the only true path to heaven, they immediately debase their own message. Inadvertantly they are suggesting that this all powerful God would be so blind and incompetent as to let his word only be shared or discovered by a select few. The rest of the multitudes can go to hell (literally). How can that make any sense to anyone?
posted by
gomedome
on February 20, 2005 at 12:30 PM
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JanesOpinion -- far from waiting for a perfect world
in fact there would be no excuse for naeivete in my age group. It is more a case of living what one believes or practicing what one preaches. That is ultimately all one individual can hope to accomplish.
posted by
gomedome
on February 20, 2005 at 12:20 PM
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Gomedome,
it sounds, then, as if you're waiting for a perfect world. Good luck finding it. Meanwhile, I shall continue with my system of belief but would like to point out that it is not my intent to come across disdainful of anyone who disagrees with me. I do admit, however, to becoming annoyed (to put it mildly) with some things that have been written about Christians which consequently put me into a defensive attack mode. Anyway, cheerio and carry on in whatever way you will and the Force be with you (or whatever sort of blessing you do accept).
posted by
JanesOpinion
on February 20, 2005 at 11:36 AM
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Is religion trying to mold man or God into thier beliefs?
Religions seem to try to make God what they themselves want him to be and then convince man that is the one and only God. But religion constantly at odds against each other saying theirs is the right. If there is one God for all. Why don't they come together as a whole and worship that one God.
posted by
Experience
on February 20, 2005 at 8:08 AM
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No one on here does as much for Jesus as you do, thanks.
I have no problem with your bliss. Just wish you would share it.
posted by
Justi
on February 19, 2005 at 11:20 PM
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JanesOpinion -- I'll be happy to get over my fixation or take a breather as
you so eloquently put it the day I do not have to suffer one more person's disdain for not believing in the God that the Christian world has fabricated. As for what is so wonderful about my beliefs?.. it is very simple. Everyone gets a fair shake and the Earth survives our species. Two things no religion can claim completely at this point in time.
posted by
gomedome
on February 19, 2005 at 6:12 PM
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In re-reading my first comment on your post. . .
I probably should not have used the word "vitriolic," as that is obviously a negative word. I am, however, genuinely curious as to what's wonderful about your own beliefs, and would challenge you to spend awhile writing about them. Take a breather, why don'tcha, from Christianity. . . .
posted by
JanesOpinion
on February 19, 2005 at 5:56 PM
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Gome,
since you have something so wonderful that works for you, why not spend more time talking about it? Why spend so much time spewing vitriolic comments against Christianity if what you have is so great? I've never understood your fixation, and Kooka_Live's (and others) fixation on writing post after post against Christians and Christianity. If I remember correctly, Kooka has said he focuses on Christianity because it's the majority religion in North America. OK, fine. You've clearly written (again and again and again) against Christianity, now don't you think it's time to move on? Get over it, and share what it is about your own beliefs that is wonderful. I for one am curious. . . . But instead of finding out what's wonderful about what you have, I'm guessing you will expend your energy writing post after negative post against Christians. What's the fascination? What's the fixation?
posted by
JanesOpinion
on February 19, 2005 at 5:28 PM
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