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it's not a descripton its a title
like doctor
Imagine -- Dr. Kooka
But no-- you're Rev. Kooka
You can go on to be Most Reverend
or Most Holy Father
I guess.
But there'd be ramifications.
Reverend if fine
actually the Title should be The Reverend.
it's a title.
It means you reverence things.
so what do you revere?
There it is.
posted by
Xeno-x
on January 3, 2005 at 7:00 AM
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Kooka, very good points here.
As you know, I'm clergy and do funerals, marriages, etc.and I've been told by many, even some elderly Christians who attended these events, that my sermon was one of the most thought provoking, sincere, and comforting ones they've ever heard. Many even ask me where my church is so they can hear me speak more often. What that tells me is exactly what you were pointing out. No one asked me how I became clergy nor questioned my "religion" or lack thereof. My sermons are always spiritual, non-judgmental, and non-denominational. Anyone can call themself a philosopher if they're a deep thinker without having a PhD behind their name.
posted by
SpitFire70
on January 2, 2005 at 2:15 PM
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kooka_lives -- I just had an idea that you will love.
Wanna Theocratic Doctorate? Do you realize that this blog's postings could be your thesis? It is a legitimate perspective on matters concerning faith regardless of what some people say. The link I dropped yesterday I think mentions how to attain one, if not there are many places online to do so. Do you think this notion would wind a few people up?
posted by
gomedome
on January 2, 2005 at 11:50 AM
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Why not "Doctor of Divinity?" As I am entitled to do.
posted by
scriber
on January 2, 2005 at 11:40 AM
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Why not invent a new name?
posted by
Gheeghee
on January 2, 2005 at 11:34 AM
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Kooka -- you may find the criteria for tax exempt status
for your state at this link:
http://northernway.org/faq.html
posted by
gomedome
on January 1, 2005 at 7:58 PM
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by the way
Happy New Year, Kooka. I hope 05 goes better for you.
posted by
calmcantey75
on January 1, 2005 at 6:52 PM
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I agree that titles are meaningless
I just never cared for reverend as far as its use in the clergy. No offense to you. More power to you.
posted by
calmcantey75
on January 1, 2005 at 6:51 PM
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gomedome
I have no idea what I would have to do to get any tax exemptions. I think part of that would be to do it as my career. Colorado is fairly lax about all you need is to be considered ordained in order to perform marriages and such. My friends and I, most of which are ordained, (They all worked at a psychic hotline at one point and in order ot give spiritual advice you had to be ordained, even if it was just through the Universal Life Church) were joking about getting my house filed as a church since we have had three weddings here already and meet here weekly for our religious practices (We do role-playing games. Yes, we are D&D geeks). We figure we could then write off all our gaming supplies as religious supplies and get them all tax free and as a tax write off on top of that. We have yet to seriously look into if we could get away with doing so, but it seems as though it could be possible.
posted by
kooka_lives
on January 1, 2005 at 6:39 PM
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kooka_lives -- as you know I got this same ordainment myself
I vaguely remember sending you the link. The laws are a bit different in Canada, I can't actually do anything with my title until I satisfy the office of the General Registrar with a few forms. From there and after a wait of about 8 weeks I can then apply with the registered status from the General Registrar for tax exempt status. (about another 8 weeks) This is then subject to some scrutiny but political correctness being what it is these days no one ever gets refused the tax exempt status. What I like about this beareucratic set up is that it acts much like a cooling off period. With such a wait, fewer people are willing to perservere, hence we do not have overwhelming numbers of people using this as a means of dodging their taxes.
posted by
gomedome
on January 1, 2005 at 6:31 PM
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jackie
The title itself is completely unimportant to me. I put no faith what-so-ever into titles. That was the basic point of me getting the title. I use the title here because that is what my certificate says I should call myself. Of course I can pay Universal Life Church a few bucks and officially get just about any title I choose. Titles are meaningless, it is the actions of those behind the titles that should matter. I have known people with no titles or training or education (Outside of having lived life) at all who have more of a right to go and give spiritual advice than many (Including some here on Blogit) who have tried to point out just how important those titles are. Titles are more or less meaningless dribble that anyone with common sense will ignore in favor of the person themselves and what that person stands behind.
posted by
kooka_lives
on January 1, 2005 at 6:20 PM
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Uni
You mean that God itself came down and ordained you? Wow. No wonder you have such strong beliefs. Most people I know of who get ordained are ordained by a church, as I was.
God's laws were created by man, so there really is no difference between the two. No wonder you are so confused all the time. Thinking that God's laws were somehow higher just because someone claimed them to be. You really need to get away from allowing fiction to run your life.
posted by
kooka_lives
on January 1, 2005 at 6:14 PM
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no offense uni
I just seemed you were being sarcastic with me at first, and it did not seem warrented. Maybe Im in a crabby mood I guess. Lets just be friends. Its better.
posted by
calmcantey75
on January 1, 2005 at 5:33 PM
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LOL Jackie, I didn't have a problem, I was just asking a question.
Sorry if it offended you somehow to make you so defensive.
I need to get out of this post anyway, it always seems to breed discontent.
posted by
PastorB
on January 1, 2005 at 5:30 PM
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unicrn, im not sure what your problem is
but if it will make you feel better, ill change it back to med student. But also to offer clarification of my occupation , I am currently in Med school at Penn, and I will eventually move on to Psychiatry residency. So my profile was misleading, I should have conveyed I am a student. I am from Valdosta, GA. I listed my dream occupation as psychiatrist and primary as well because I am so absorbed in it, but no, I do not yet have a license.
posted by
calmcantey75
on January 1, 2005 at 5:27 PM
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Shav and as anyone well knows, man has been trying to
impose and enforce his own law since the begining of time, and look where it got so many, but that doesn't make it right if it is in conflict with Gods law.
posted by
PastorB
on January 1, 2005 at 5:25 PM
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Shav, no God's law supercedes mans law
in society, not the inhabitants of heaven. We are to obey God's law first, just by doing that we are obeying mans law. But if mans law conflicts with what Gods law is, than I'd break mans law before Gods. That's only common sense.
posted by
PastorB
on January 1, 2005 at 5:23 PM
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Psychiatry needs more spirituality and God's words if its intent is to brainwash people.
posted by
Shavonne
on January 1, 2005 at 5:19 PM
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Jackie, oh, so you are not practicing
psychiatry any longer? Or maybe I'm confused about that anyway, cause I know that Penn school of Medicine doesn't offer the psychiatry degree, only the medical, so maybe you haven't yet finished your studies or gotten your degree/license?
And I'm kinda partial to the word "Pastor" myself
;-)
posted by
PastorB
on January 1, 2005 at 5:18 PM
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God's law supersedes man's? Where? In heaven? Because on earth it's man law that controls the masses not God's.
posted by
Shavonne
on January 1, 2005 at 5:16 PM
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nah
ministry is where my heart is and it is really the way I view what I do. Psychiatry needs much more infusion of spirituality and Gods Word. Psychiatry really is nothing more than a ' renewal of the mind' anyway. Which is what is commanded in Romans.
posted by
calmcantey75
on January 1, 2005 at 5:13 PM
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Jackie-o, I noticied in your
member profile that you changed your "primary occupation" from Psychiatrist to Minister. Interesting. Did you jump on the on-line ordination bandwagon too?
posted by
PastorB
on January 1, 2005 at 5:05 PM
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also
I should clarify, 'Reverend'implies an inherant reverance that is due the man, as if he is elevated above everyone by his own virtue. That is my opinion. I am not saying that is what you think of yourself. Minister is more appropriate because that title means to serve, which is what ' reverands' are supposed to do anyway.
posted by
calmcantey75
on January 1, 2005 at 5:03 PM
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i never did like the title reverand
simply because why should I reverance any man? I think the title ' minister' is more appropriate.
posted by
calmcantey75
on January 1, 2005 at 4:56 PM
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I'll say just this; It is God who calls and God who ordains
God's law supercedes mans.
posted by
PastorB
on January 1, 2005 at 4:17 PM
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