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Abe
My 'bias' as you seem to wish to call it is very much based on my real experiences. If I ever talk about Christians at all I am completely going off what patterns I have seen in the Christians I have know and what actions they have committed as well as what they claim their beliefs to be.
The funniest thing, and right here is a great example of this, is that no matter how much I try to avoid generalization of Christians, Christians keep popping up and proving generalizations of them to be true. A great example that you are very much showing is this strange need that here seems to be for a large number of Christians to play the victim. No one else has it as bad as a Christina does according to Christians it would seem. If I say one word that does not agree with Christian beliefs I am told I ma generalizing and attacking and all sorts of other BS. While if I even try to defend my views to a Christians they can justify calling me evil and generalizing the hell out of my beliefs.
I know for a fact I DO NOT generalize christians because I know too many who do not fit the mold. I figure that if a certain amount of them do not fit he mold who I know personally, then I figure that into a basic percent of Christians who will not fit the mold and so I base my observation off of that. If it were only a few who seemed to fit the mold, I would be very open and say that there a a few. Btu rarely do I see only a few who fit into what I have noticed about them and so I use the term 'many' or 'most' since in my experience that is what I have seen.
posted by
kooka_lives
on December 18, 2004 at 3:25 PM
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Just as you say people would base generalizations of Athiests not on real experience, likewise your bias against "many" Christians is to be sure.
posted by
cmoe
on December 18, 2004 at 11:05 AM
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Reverend,
Good point, civilization does need more informed dissent.
posted by
Blanche.
on December 15, 2004 at 8:40 PM
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mary
I am a reverend, so I can use that title as I see fit. As for my blog on religion, I wrote a post on Christmas that says nothing at all negative about the Christian faith. I felt it to be a very tame post that basically said all should believe as they see fit. One of the Christians here replied by trying to cut down my beliefs. I have written several posts that have had nothing at all to do with Christianity, but those are most often over looked. Beyond that however I do not generalize all Christians as being the same or thinking alike. Pointing out the flaws that I see in the religion is not the same thing as generalizing all Christians as being the same kind of people. I have no ax to grind with Christians, I just see many, many flaws in that beliefs system and am very open about talking about them.
posted by
kooka_lives
on December 15, 2004 at 8:34 PM
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Rev,
I agree gross over-generalizations are always caricatures of the truth, man v. woman, liberal v. conservatives, etc. I find your professions of "not generalizing" about Christians to be a little disingenuous as your whole blog identity, "Reverend Kooka" and your entire blog in "religion" has been devoted to debunking Christianity and proving the moral and ethical superiority of atheism. You, too, fellow blogger, have an axe to grind.
Tho post you refer to was completely out of line, but I think considering the source, it's not surprising.
posted by
Blanche.
on December 15, 2004 at 8:20 PM
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Santa Pig Kissed My Wife - Are all Holidays Bad
Actually,
Santa did take a smootch, but I'd like to think he was envious. I get to go home and sleep with her, he didn't. I agree, it's way too easy to just pick a subject and rattle away as a blogger. I still like Christmass, and Santa's reguardless of what the Bad Santa's may be doing. Now, for that damned Easter Bunny, well I can tell you a story about that!
posted by
Barrett
on December 15, 2004 at 2:12 PM
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You're too nice Kooka--
Call it what it is, prejudice.
FR
posted by
freerain
on December 14, 2004 at 12:01 AM
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I think the only one who should be allowed to indulge in
generalizations is me.
posted by
SlyCy
on December 13, 2004 at 6:34 AM
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posted by
Kelli
on December 11, 2004 at 8:15 PM
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Klara
Thank You
posted by
kooka_lives
on December 11, 2004 at 3:25 PM
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I agree with Matos, Kooka, and while I've always enjoyed reading you, I
find I enjoy it more now. You're developing quite nicely as a writer. As for the generalizations, I've taken quite a beating here for my own post this week about such things, and about the "tone" of certain posts and content. I'll leave this lie, as it's quite worn me out, honestly. But good post, and very well written. You've presented your views in a non-confrontational manner, which overall, makes them "stronger", not "weaker".
posted by
KlaraRoberts
on December 11, 2004 at 3:08 PM
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Y-L-F
Thank you I guess.
My wife and I do have a fairly equal relationship.
I personally think much of that kind of lifestyle comes from how one is raised and not by just being a man.
I remember a wedding for some friends who were every religious and I was greatly insulted at the level in which the ceremony seemed to be stressing the idea that man is in charge and women needs to be do as her husband wishes. it did not seem to fit them at all nor their families. It felt more like what the church was trying to preach than anything else.
Maybe you need ot hang out with more atheist. I can promise you that in my group of friends, most of whom are atheists, you would be hard pressed ot find a true pig among the men.
posted by
kooka_lives
on December 11, 2004 at 3:04 PM
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But in all fairness, kooka,
You should be set apart from that over-generalization that I made, as you do not profess to be a Christian, and therefore do not support the idea that the man is the head of the house. Not every man was created to be an oppressor of women, and I certainly wasn't referring to you, of all people, when I wrote that post.
posted by
TARZANA
on December 11, 2004 at 7:02 AM
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Kooka,
That wasn't based upon my youth. That was based upon my experiences from the first grade in elementary school until I was 34 years old and into the Blogit World.
posted by
TARZANA
on December 11, 2004 at 6:59 AM
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e really is little if no difference between generalisation and racism
posted by
calmcantey75
on December 10, 2004 at 1:18 PM
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I'm glad to hear you speak this way about generalizations. I know that I have interpreted things you have written as generalizations but seeing that such is not the case with you, I look forward to reading about specific groups or individuals in you posts. I must admit, your posts are geting better to read. Keep it up.
posted by
Matos
on December 10, 2004 at 8:41 AM
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Right on. I wrote a post about this a month or two ago because I was sick of hearing generalizations about liberals and conservatives. We need to get past the lumping of everyone into one group without exceptions.
posted by
roofpig
on December 10, 2004 at 8:33 AM
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kooka
I fully agree...
posted by
SincerityAnna
on December 10, 2004 at 8:31 AM
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