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Thanks Katray, it was the same
in Vietnam. The troops got the shaft, finally enough of them realized it and the Veitnam Vets against the War are still getting the shaft, inspite of the fact that everyone admits that war was a big F***King mistake.

posted by Cynthia on December 6, 2004 at 4:23 PM | link to this | reply

Good message Cynthia
This is driving me insane around here too. What a cold, unpatriotic way to honor our troops - just totally ignore the hellish existence that is their reality.

posted by Katray2 on December 6, 2004 at 4:16 PM | link to this | reply

SlyCy, We will all start to feel the pain,
not only the families with soldiers in iraq and Afghanistan. It's the old trickle down effect that is how changes in government policy work. By the time you feel the pain, you forgot how things got that way.
Let's not forget 4 years from now.

posted by Cynthia on December 6, 2004 at 3:57 PM | link to this | reply

How in the world did this country ever reelect this bozo?
Don't people care about their jobs and their children?  Good grief!

posted by SlyCy on December 6, 2004 at 6:54 AM | link to this | reply

Mary-x, Orwellian is on the
mark to describe our times.

posted by Cynthia on December 5, 2004 at 8:55 AM | link to this | reply

Suomynona, Thanks for
your thoughtful comment. It's great to know something I've written can provoke a response like yours.

posted by Cynthia on December 5, 2004 at 8:54 AM | link to this | reply

I've had the same feeling of disconnet since September 11, and the election with all its diversions, the news with it's non-news, is just pure Orwellian double-speak. 

posted by Blanche. on December 4, 2004 at 3:12 PM | link to this | reply

Cynthia
This is a very interesting and thought provoking post. As Australian troops are assisting in the 'war effort' I often feel that the education system definitely plays down any reference to Iraq. If I remember rightly, the teachers were discouraged from instigating discussions of the war in the classrooms. They certainly spent a mighty long time learning about World War 1 and 2 and the ANZACS though.

posted by suomynona on December 4, 2004 at 3:04 PM | link to this | reply

Majroj, I accept your reasoning.
You are one of those rare rational people who I can disagree with and still appreciate your point of view.

posted by Cynthia on December 4, 2004 at 2:40 PM | link to this | reply

Telynor, I switch between
trying to read all the news I can find out what's going on in Iraq, to reading nothing, and sticking my head in the sand too.

posted by Cynthia on December 4, 2004 at 2:37 PM | link to this | reply

Gypsyredhead33, thanks for the
comment. I raised my kid like you're raising yours and she turned out great, a realist about life.

posted by Cynthia on December 4, 2004 at 2:33 PM | link to this | reply

(By OOPS, I goofed submitting a comment. Sorry!).

posted by majroj on December 4, 2004 at 10:48 AM | link to this | reply

OOPS, try again

As for the conference: sometimes when you're here to do brain surgery you have to sort of ignore the harelip, no? Rump sessions and brownbaggers are good for addressing other important issues.

As for the war per se, as long as we are dependent upon their oil for our lives (literally; consider the power and food distribution systems) we will need control of at least part of the area. Then another part. And we will be fighting amongst the other nations so dependent. The war is the irritating splinter in the eye, but oil withdrawl and our efforts to safeguard our supply are crucial to the world.

posted by majroj on December 4, 2004 at 10:47 AM | link to this | reply

It amazes me too. Unless you know someone who has a relative in Iraq, you wouldn't know that there was a war on. American idiocy, and bloody single-mindedness rears its ugly little head again. I shudder to think of what things will be like in the next twenty years.

posted by telynor on December 4, 2004 at 9:34 AM | link to this | reply

Isn't it funny how there is always going to be certain subjects people choose to ignore. I always called it the head on the platter in the middle of the table. Basically the same thing as that elephant. Our children know there is a war. They see the ribbons and hear the news just like we do. The only difference is that I don't feel like they're as well informed as they should be. It's not just the war either. I've always tried to make sure my kids know the realities of life and I answer any questions they have as honestly as I can. Great post!

posted by RedHeadedGypsy on December 4, 2004 at 9:06 AM | link to this | reply