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Thanks Katray, it was the same
in Vietnam. The troops got the shaft, finally enough of them realized it and the Veitnam Vets against the War are still getting the shaft, inspite of the fact that everyone admits that war was a big F***King mistake.
posted by
Cynthia
on December 6, 2004 at 4:23 PM
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Good message Cynthia
This is driving me insane around here too. What a cold, unpatriotic way to honor our troops - just totally ignore the hellish existence that is their reality.

posted by
Katray2
on December 6, 2004 at 4:16 PM
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SlyCy, We will all start to feel the pain,
not only the families with soldiers in iraq and Afghanistan. It's the old trickle down effect that is how changes in government policy work. By the time you feel the pain, you forgot how things got that way.
Let's not forget 4 years from now.
posted by
Cynthia
on December 6, 2004 at 3:57 PM
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How in the world did this country ever reelect this bozo?
Don't people care about their jobs and their children? Good grief!
posted by
SlyCy
on December 6, 2004 at 6:54 AM
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Mary-x, Orwellian is on the
mark to describe our times.
posted by
Cynthia
on December 5, 2004 at 8:55 AM
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Suomynona, Thanks for
your thoughtful comment. It's great to know something I've written can provoke a response like yours.
posted by
Cynthia
on December 5, 2004 at 8:54 AM
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I've had the same feeling of disconnet since September 11, and the election with all its diversions, the news with it's non-news, is just pure Orwellian double-speak.
posted by
Blanche.
on December 4, 2004 at 3:12 PM
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Cynthia
This is a very interesting and thought provoking post. As Australian troops are assisting in the 'war effort' I often feel that the education system definitely plays down any reference to Iraq. If I remember rightly, the teachers were discouraged from instigating discussions of the war in the classrooms. They certainly spent a mighty long time learning about World War 1 and 2 and the ANZACS though.
posted by
suomynona
on December 4, 2004 at 3:04 PM
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Majroj, I accept your reasoning.
You are one of those rare rational people who I can disagree with and still appreciate your point of view.
posted by
Cynthia
on December 4, 2004 at 2:40 PM
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Telynor, I switch between
trying to read all the news I can find out what's going on in Iraq, to reading nothing, and sticking my head in the sand too.
posted by
Cynthia
on December 4, 2004 at 2:37 PM
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Gypsyredhead33, thanks for the
comment. I raised my kid like you're raising yours and she turned out great, a realist about life.
posted by
Cynthia
on December 4, 2004 at 2:33 PM
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(By OOPS, I goofed submitting a comment. Sorry!).
posted by
majroj
on December 4, 2004 at 10:48 AM
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OOPS, try again
As for the conference: sometimes when you're here to do brain surgery you have to sort of ignore the harelip, no? Rump sessions and brownbaggers are good for addressing other important issues.
As for the war per se, as long as we are dependent upon their oil for our lives (literally; consider the power and food distribution systems) we will need control of at least part of the area. Then another part. And we will be fighting amongst the other nations so dependent. The war is the irritating splinter in the eye, but oil withdrawl and our efforts to safeguard our supply are crucial to the world.
posted by
majroj
on December 4, 2004 at 10:47 AM
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It amazes me too. Unless you know someone who has a relative in Iraq, you wouldn't know that there was a war on. American idiocy, and bloody single-mindedness rears its ugly little head again. I shudder to think of what things will be like in the next twenty years.
posted by
telynor
on December 4, 2004 at 9:34 AM
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Isn't it funny how there is always going to be certain subjects people choose to ignore. I always called it the head on the platter in the middle of the table. Basically the same thing as that elephant. Our children know there is a war. They see the ribbons and hear the news just like we do. The only difference is that I don't feel like they're as well informed as they should be. It's not just the war either. I've always tried to make sure my kids know the realities of life and I answer any questions they have as honestly as I can. Great post!
posted by
RedHeadedGypsy
on December 4, 2004 at 9:06 AM
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