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rosiev -- you see -- the problem many have with Christians
is the Christians they encounter
and if too many Christians act the same way, then it has to be at least suppposed that the vast majority acts so.
Christians need to be Christian.
you show me that you are Christian and I will believe you.
posted by
Xeno-x
on November 30, 2004 at 10:20 AM
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My heart breaks when I read some of the anti Christian comments and how they tend to lump everyone in one group. I am a Child of God and do not put me in the large group you consider "Christians". I have a different view of "Christians" than yours. The answer is "Relationship". Get to know Jesus personally and your whole perception changes. It all boils down to "Loving One Another" whether you agree with them or not.
Hang in there Unicorn. I have decided to quit reading their blogs. I am responsible for my actions and I'm aiding and abeiting some of these people as well as making money for them. No more for me! Adios
posted by
RosieV
on November 30, 2004 at 10:16 AM
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uni
I agree you do not try, you do it so well without trying at all.
I have yet to have to repsort to such tactics myself.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 29, 2004 at 10:08 AM
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very good unicorn
the more we do the better the world will be
posted by
Xeno-x
on November 29, 2004 at 9:59 AM
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umm, interesting. I've not tried pulling things out of my butt, have you?
posted by
PastorB
on November 29, 2004 at 9:53 AM
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uni
I do not distort scripture. I read what is there and I clearly seen the meaning of it. Most Christians I have known do a great deal of distorting scripture and that is where the problems leis a well. For if this book the Bible is truth, then how is it justifiable for so many to pick and choose form it and then distort those scriptures to say what they wish it to say.
Things like the line 'the circle of the Earth' as being used to say the Bible justifies the Earth being round is distorting scripture a great deal to fit into one's desires. It very clearly is not saying the Earth is sphere. It makes sense and just saying the Earth is a large circle in space, which is generally how most people saw it. They very much believed that you could go of the edge of the Earth and this line does not go against the idea, nor does it defend such an idea. It just says the Earth is a circle. And they did now what a sphere was back then, so if God wished for them to know the true shape of the Earth, he could have made sure the word there was Sphere and not circle.
But of course you will defend any time Christians distort the Bible for their own use and to make what you consider valid points, when in fact it is just pulling things out of their butts in order to try and make themselves look good.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 29, 2004 at 9:30 AM
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I'll gladly answer that WEST
our ministry, Unicorn Services, fed over 100 families every month-out of our own pocket. We gave clothes to anyone who needed them, sent Bibles and my own book (Crossing the white Line) to those in jails, I've counseled families who have had issues with their teens, we've helped repair peoples homes to make them livable, fixed their cars so they could get a job, we've helped people find housing, and jobs, have taken meals to those who were homebound due to illness and visited many in hospitals, have given people gas money, furniture, household necessities, all at no cost to them and out of our own pocket not some federally sanctioned funds.
posted by
PastorB
on November 29, 2004 at 8:38 AM
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back to responsibility
ultimately rests with the individual
but -- there are many individuals who, through lack of education, make these gross mistakes. They need to be enlightened.
What Kooka is saying is that much Christian perception is that the woes of the world are due to Satan's influence -- and that excuses them of any responsibility to alleviate such woes.
What I would like to hear from some of these Christians is something other than double talk and excuses. They are living up to Kooka's description quite well.
posted by
Xeno-x
on November 29, 2004 at 8:21 AM
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a few things
i should do more.
we all should.
i give money to the Salvation Army -- never pass up a kettle.
I help out a local social service agency serving youth in certain neighborhoods.
I've employed people that have needed jobs.
I visit a local Juvenile Detention Center 2c a year.
I still need to do more.
I am seeing that I need more person to person contact in order to be more helpful -- to get awy from my comfort and out there where people aren't so comfortable.
I have an opportunity to do so in the near future and I hope I can actively pursue such.
none of us does enough
and it is particularly imperative that those who claim to preach christ do so much more than us ordinary peon folks.
so I'll ask you the same questions: when have you done so?
posted by
Xeno-x
on November 29, 2004 at 8:16 AM
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give me a break. Do you think if you talk
yourself around in a circle it will justify what you are really trying to say? It's those, like you for example, that distort scripture to mean what they want it to mean so that they are "justified" in their sinful lives that do the most damage.
posted by
PastorB
on November 29, 2004 at 8:08 AM
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Uni
It is not what a group is claiming to teach that matters, but rather what is really being taught that is important. This is one of those big issues that you often seem very blind to. You will not accept that many stories in the Bible do not teach the grand morally correct lessons that you wish for them to. You teach people that the stories in the Bible teach very good morals and then get puzzled when they read the stories and end up finding ways to justify their immoral behavior.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 29, 2004 at 7:55 AM
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WESTWEND
it is absolutelly imperative that society learn to take responsibility for their own actions, to be held accountable, so this rather contradicts what Kooka is saying in that he believes Christians use Jesus or satan as their scapegoats. Although it may be true for some, it is not the correct Christian teaching.
By the way, WEST, for curiousity, what are you doing to feed the hungry? How many homeless have you taken in or helped? What have you done to stop crime, or to help a juvenile delinquent? How many sick, infirmed people have you gone to visit? How many imprisoned have you giving a moment of your time to? And just how many naked people have you clothed?
posted by
PastorB
on November 29, 2004 at 7:47 AM
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mysteria
You are very welcome. I am glad to help you any way I can.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 29, 2004 at 7:38 AM
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well, i just lost a cool note AGAIN
this time it was to you. in it, i said many things...it just sucks to lose stuff like that. N E-wayz..it basically stated that you are a way cool person and I really appreciate you, and it was about love and support and kindess and goodness..the usual atheist type stuff :)
I borrow many people here as role models as I lack in role model category... historically speaking as well.
I find logic to be a great ally in my battle. And you are a great logician... thanks so much for your kind words of support and encouragement...it means a GREAT deal to me.
Lover, mysteria
posted by
mysteria
on November 28, 2004 at 9:47 PM
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yep yep yep
transfer all the good and evil in the world off on personages
why not?
that way you cannot be responsible if people go hungry or homelessness runs rampant.
It's all Satan's doing, all this war and killing and homelessness and hunger and crime and juvenile delinquency -- people's actions or lack of such have nothing to do with it -- right?
sit back and be righteous.
don't visit the sick or infirm or imprisoned or clothe the naked or feed the hungry.
you are righteous and good. you don't need to do all that. it's all Satan's workings anyway.
posted by
Xeno-x
on November 28, 2004 at 2:01 PM
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kooka
I kind of liked the old Flip Wilson TV shows with his "The devil made me do it!" routines. What made it funny was the fact it was satire on the way a lot of people really think. You make a lot of examples in all your posts about how so many people who call themselves christians are foolish, or stupid, or downright evil. You know what, you're absolutely right. With a little work, you could make hilarious satire because there is a lot of humor in the human condition that you see so well. But that would require a goal on your part of giving people some comfort in their affliction, not just logical reasons why they are so afflicted.
posted by
pappy
on November 28, 2004 at 11:03 AM
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I understand the point you are making here
but most of this is just not correct concerning the Christian doctrine. Christians
are accountable for their actions( but still resuced from hell), and satan cannot be blamed for the actions we commit. satan has no authority to MAKE anyone do anything. Once again we arrive at the faith juncture. I believe I need a savior to be rescued from being lost for eternity, you do not. We will leave it at that. I just wanted to point out that Christianity does not teach the things you are saying here, even if some Christians are actually foolish enough to beleive this way
or give the impression that they do.
posted by
calmcantey75
on November 28, 2004 at 10:08 AM
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