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sarooster
Did you read my post at all? I don't think I said it wS Bush's fault. I did say his policies are wrong and his obsession with Iraq is not helping because we need to be focusing more here at home.

I did however say Big Business needs to be responsible to its employees, which ti is not doing. I did say we are having some major economic problems. I was saying that if those companies want the tax cuts, then they need to prove that they are doing all they can to help America and our economy out. Why is that such a bad thing?

I would love to be able to go back to school, find that better job and have all I need to live on. I can not afford to go back to school and it is very hard to find finical aid for that at my age. All employers I run across do not wish to pay enough to for a person to live on, and then are stingy with the benefits. AS i said, I know for a fact that companies right now are being about as greedy as possible and are not willing not pay people any thing close to what they need to live on, even though those companies are raking in a fortune at the cost of their employees. It really seems to me that conservatives in general do not really care about the bottom rung. If you do not have some technical degree and work at a mid level job, then you do not matter and your employer should be able to screw you over and the rest of the country will just look the other way and pretend that nothing has happened?

posted by kooka_lives on November 13, 2004 at 7:42 AM | link to this | reply

Why do you want to blame George Bush for your situation?
Did he pay for your education? Do you expect him to pay for you health care? I have a post relating to this yesterday. There is one person responsible for your health and well-being. It is not the President of the United States of America. It is you and only you! Get a better job. Go back to school and get yourself better able to compete in the marketplace. Find an employer who has better benefits. The government is not going to do it for you nor should they!

posted by sarooster on November 13, 2004 at 5:47 AM | link to this | reply

kooka: u r right. this economy sucks. Bush wants the entire nation's

economy to look like the South's: low labor wages, low taxes, poor educations, etc. In another century, this was called Feudalism. Now Idiocons consider it good economics. Really??? Ever wonder why there is a strong correlation between states with higher taxes and education spending, and the states with higher GDPs?

But who cares, really? I mean, I feel sorry for you, and I support health care and education policies. But hey, according to Idiocons, I'm a fkn liberal elitist. Since I can afford these things w/o the government policy, maybe I should become an Idiocon and vote Republican. After all, I've got mine, why should I care if you get yours? Of course, that would require me to disregard the fact that I got my educations due to government policies such as SallieMae, military spending, and property taxes for my  secondary education. Or I can delude myself to believe that I got it by myself. What a dumbass I would be to think that way, and I'm no dumbass.

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posted by t_rat on November 12, 2004 at 10:17 PM | link to this | reply

you might just have to go back to school brother
thats seems the only way to be competative. Thats what Im doing now, but I dont have any children. You will find the solution.

posted by calmcantey75 on November 12, 2004 at 7:03 PM | link to this | reply

Everyone
To all those who offered help, I think you. Not really sure what any of you can do, unless you have connections that can help get my some real writing jobs. I am very optimistic that things will start to come together for me and my family. It has just been a really crazy year. Once we get to the end of this year I will have to write a full post explaining everything that has happened. It has just generally been agreed by my family that this has not been any where near our best year. We all figure next year can only get better, even if Bush is still in power.

Ody, I am not moving. I like where I am. it is close to family and we do not get any hurricanes. In fact it really is a good are to be away form natural disasters in general. We get some tornados many miles to the east of us, but they rarely (Once every tens years of so) get this far west. I also do not care for the humidity down south. I'll visit down there when I have reason to, but I really have no desire to live down there.

Everyone else, thank you for your comments.

posted by kooka_lives on November 12, 2004 at 10:03 AM | link to this | reply

Hey Kooka, my friend

It's been a few days since we "chatted," so I thought I'd add my 2 cents.  This fairly conservative Republican actually has struggled with the "rightness" of the war in Iraq, especially considering the fact that all the billions could be better spent at home.

Also, especially during my nurse practitioner clinicals, I ran into a lot of people who were either underinsured or uninsured and I agree that there needs to be some huge changes made.  I think what we need is a basic "preventative maintenance" program for every American -- i.e. all well child visits, yearly physicals, pap smears and mammograms, minor diagnostics, minor procedures, etc.  This would be govt./employer/employee funded - but should not be too expensive (all things being relative) because it would be basic.  There would be a standard copay for each visit -- say $10, and also for each medication. 

And then if people want more services available they could buy insurance on a tiered approach.  For example, if you want access to open heart surgery, then you'd buy into the more expensive insurance.  There are two problems with my approach -- (that I can see right off the bat).   The first is that most people would only buy the cheaper tier1 insurance assuming they won't need anything more.  However, when they become ill with clogged arteries from years of smoking and trans fatty acids they will insist on having the open heart surgery even if they did not buy into that plan.  The second problem is that this plan encourages a lifestyle of disease prevention and health promotion, and we Americans are not good at that!  We also don't like the notion of rationing; however, we've seen the woes of Canada and the UK -- not to mention other countries; they're cash strapped and with long waiting lists for even basic surgeries.  Not good!

Hmmm, perhaps I feel another blog coming on -- "Jane's thoughts on a NEW health care system"

posted by JanesOpinion on November 12, 2004 at 8:31 AM | link to this | reply

kooka this is a good piece

but you know the arguments you will get from the Bush butt boys here.

posted by scoop on November 12, 2004 at 6:55 AM | link to this | reply

This post, really, really spoke to me, Kooka.
You've put more of yourself into this one, and I for one, appreciated the insight.

I lived through all this too, myself, decades ago. I was a single mother with many children, who was "downsized", and without health care or any child support whatsoever. I know how draining this type of existence can be, and how it has an impact on your entire life. There were times when my children and I did without everything, and I mean everything.

This isn't limited to this particular timeframe, though, as there has never been enough options out there for people who experience hardships, even twenty years ago. Welfare would not have been an option for me, as I preferred to die first, and I didn't even seek any type of assistance. I did go back to school and expanded my degree, and started my own business eventually. Was it easy? Hell no. Is it easy now? Hell no again.

What we're seeing now, though, is not much different than what's been going on for decades. Long before the present administration took office, the changes in society as a whole (other countries have experienced economic downturns also), were causing much of what is being seen now. Is this indeed sad? Yes. But I don't ever see the societal changes and economic changes reversing themselves. It's a global society now, with the expansion of technology, and this in and of itself has lent itself to many of these changes.

There is decent health care out there at affordable prices for those that don't have it. If you need info, email me. I have helped many others get healthcare with this info. Don't know if anything I offer will apply in your state, but it doesn't hurt to try.

I apologize for the "post" on your post, but you did reach my heart here.

posted by KlaraRoberts on November 12, 2004 at 6:34 AM | link to this | reply

There are a lot of jobs in Florida
if ya wanna move down South.

posted by telemachus on November 11, 2004 at 6:39 PM | link to this | reply

What kind of work have you done in the past? What kind of work do you want? What can I do?

If one of the children becomes seriously ill tonight until you get a job with coverage, you can go to an emergency room and they can not refuse you because you can not pay. I know that's not peace of mind but something. I was without insurance and worry is not a good thing. Even with it this year I have had more than five thousand dollars nonreimurseable notcovered out of plan costs as my son has had a major illness. I can not ever quit my job ( which I do enjoy thank you God) because he would be uninsurable. Scarey.  

posted by the-loanlady on November 11, 2004 at 5:21 PM | link to this | reply

Kook, I understand completely. My wife graduated in May and is still looking for a job. She's doing some temp work right now, but even that is few and far between. I'm lucky enough to have medical insurance through my job, but in order to get her onto the insurace, they'd be pulling out over 200 dollars of my paycheck a month. I simply can't afford that because I'm paying back the student loans I took out to get a degree that got me a job that I really don't want. On top of that, there's rent, phone bills, electricity bills, credit card debt, and groceries (you gotta eat to live, right?). Conservatives don't give one iota of one fuck about social reform because they don't care about people. Okay, I have to take that back on account of my post on over-generalizations. Most consevatives I know are that way. I simply don't understand their line of thinking and hurts to try. It also hurts to be raped financially, but they don't seem to care.

posted by roofpig on November 11, 2004 at 5:05 PM | link to this | reply