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oh yes
good post.
we need more like this.
people are too hamstrung by human perception.
posted by
Xeno-x
on October 13, 2004 at 1:00 PM
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yeah Mosses
doesn't rhyme
you can't say mosses supposses his tosses are rosses.
but you can say moses supposes his toeses are roses.
posted by
Xeno-x
on October 13, 2004 at 6:55 AM
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If you are offering ice cream parties count me in.
And can you please spell Moses nor Mosses even if one is not taking the Bible literally?
posted by
beachbelle
on October 12, 2004 at 6:41 PM
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Creation and Evolution cannot exist without each other.
posted by
justAcarpenter
on October 12, 2004 at 2:38 PM
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god makes profits???
i guess god should since he owns the whole kaboodle
now how does god collect is the question?
grist for the contemplation mill
posted by
Xeno-x
on October 12, 2004 at 2:29 PM
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freerain
The basic idea of the post was not that the Bible was the word of God, but to give other options to those who believe.
The idea of God coming and finding a new profit was not defending the Mormon ideas. I have studied them a little and I disagree with everything I know of them. I do not believe that God has come down to anyone (I do not believe there is a God). I was saying that it would make sense for God to appear and correct things if God were real.
The post was more directed to believers who are trapped in a literal Bible and refuse to see facts that contradict that literal Bible. It was not at all directed to those who already see the Bible as a collection of myths.
posted by
kooka_lives
on October 12, 2004 at 1:38 PM
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Kooka, what are you thinking?
You just made the validation for the Mormons. I used to be associated with this branch of the Christian Cult, so I could see it right away. Surely you've heard the story of Joseph Smith and his revelation of Jesus and God the Father in the sacred grove in Palmyra NY. If not, contact the Mormon missionaries and they'd be glad to enlighten you. Your question was the very one I asked myself 20 years ago when I wanted answers to the God question and "which church was right with God." Regardless, you're slipping a bit. The stories in the Books of Moses are stories taken from other cultures and adapted to suit the new congregation Moses took into the wilderness. He took mythology from Egypt, Syria, and other civilizations and made them exculsively Hebrew--the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob--and none other. The morality imparted is where you should seek relevance to truth. The evolution of society has created a significantly different moral paradigm. Diversity and tolerance and an establishment of human rights that are inalienable to the society of man are the pinnicle of our civilization . The Bible does not support this morality, not one wit. If you look to the Bible for moral guidence you'll get what we have among the fundalmentalist and that is intolerance of other religions, supremacy of race, and the willingness to neglect the welfare of the earth and other humans because these are distractions from the worship of God.
I am neither Christian or Atheist, though I have identified myself as both and found them lacking in deffinition of the human experience. While I was Christian I had the same view of Atheists as most Christians still have. Also, I possessed the uncomfortable feeling of superiority over non-believers, that I "got it" and they didn't--it was just a matter of time, even if it took to the Judgement Day for them to see the light. Then, one day, I was made aware of the emense darkness I was embedded in and rushed to proclaime myself an Atheist. This was a contradiction to my spiritual nature and I found Atheism supported the same ideals of "beginning and end" that limits the reality of existance. Now, I embrace the commonality we all share and that is we are human beings, the same in basic needs and this Earth is our home, the only place we know of and its health is as important as our own--what happens to it happens to all inhabitants, human, plant and animal. As for death, it is the remaining mystery that can only be answered once the individual passes through that experience.
Peace,
Freerain
posted by
freerain
on October 12, 2004 at 11:31 AM
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SOUNDS ODD
but regarding moses
other far-sighted prophets, etc.
I think they would be of open enough mind to accept evolution and other such ideas.
Moses came about near the time when one Pharoah tried monotheism Aten, the Sun God
so it looks like he might have been trying the same revolutionary concept -- more successfully.
posted by
Xeno-x
on October 12, 2004 at 11:10 AM
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Interesting post with good points. Two thumbs up. (sorry, I don't do the emoticon thing)
posted by
roofpig
on October 12, 2004 at 10:07 AM
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