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Tapsel-T
thank you thats a point you know..................thank you...I suppose the only way I know is when she replies back to my email I sent a little while a go...........thank you take care
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 20, 2004 at 11:09 AM
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ltlmac70
thats wonderful comment thank you.......you are such a lovely person, I am so glad you have came more out of yourself.............and are happy...............thanks for reading and commenting..take care
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 20, 2004 at 11:08 AM
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SYMPH - If your friend is not a professional editor, it is possible
that she might welcome your request to have the book back to have it edited. There is the possibility that she got in over her head and wishes she hadn't offered to do it. I would tell her that you have decision to make and that you need the whole thing back to evaluate where you stand.
posted by
TAPS.
on September 20, 2004 at 10:24 AM
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Not stupid SYM...
just trusting that people are as thoughtful as yourself. I've made that mistake a time or two myself. I think most people have, at least once. Asking for your work back doesn't have to mean or imply that you believe she's doing something underhanded, it just means that you aren't in need of her services...
Whether she's being on the up and up or not isn't even the real issue, it's whether or not she's handling this edit job timely enough for your needs. Approach it like that with her, in a friendly way, and you'll be fine. If this hurts your friendship, I'd have to wonder if she was much of a friend to begin with?!?
It's always a good idea to be aware of the potential that someone can screw you over, but you don't necessarily have to make it known that you're aware. At least, not at this point. Good luck!!
ltlmac70
posted by
superflymom119
on September 20, 2004 at 10:09 AM
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KlaraRoberts
thank you so much, yes on that note, I am going to email her straight away and ask to see some proof...I have been really stupid...but I suppose you learn through your mistakes thank you for taking the time to read and comment......take care
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 20, 2004 at 9:57 AM
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tremacc
thank you thats a wonderful idea..............thanks for reading and commenting and for the advice........take care
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 20, 2004 at 9:55 AM
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I would personally ask for it back immediately.
She should at least have provided some edited chapters for your approval by now (and it is your work so this would be expected, at least by me, if it were mine), and I wouldn't personally wait around hoping for the best. I'm just a "suspicious Aloysius" I guess, but this quality has saved my hide in the past. If she didn't provide it after I'd asked for it, I'd see a lawyer.
posted by
KlaraRoberts
on September 20, 2004 at 9:22 AM
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Symphony, it's always great to believe in the good of people
but just to be safe, send the original version to the copyright office. Her in the U.S. we can pick up forms from the public library--- I'm sure the same applies or something similar in England. Anyway, the library would know. Also, you could do what is called a "poor man's copyright". Send it to your self via public mail and then do not open it. Leave it sealed.
posted by
Tremac
on September 20, 2004 at 8:08 AM
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Tanoolicious
thank you..............I wish I could find the words to say that.....but then I suppose thats what the email is for........a cowards way out...............thank you... in the end I am going to have to if I like to or not.... I put a lot of hard work in to it............thanks for reading...take care
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 1:32 PM
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Symphony, if this editing goes on much longer, be honest with her and tell her "you said you would edit it, and i respected that but respect MY work and leave it for me, not to merge things so its our book" good luck!
posted by
Tanoolicious
on September 19, 2004 at 1:29 PM
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PUFFCAKES
lol..........ok if you say so
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 1:26 PM
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she needs da slap
posted by
PUFF-FUMES
on September 19, 2004 at 1:23 PM
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InherentRights
you always help
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 12:26 PM
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lol thanks Symphony!
Sometimes it works better than others. I hope I could help!
posted by
InherentRights
on September 19, 2004 at 12:18 PM
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InherentRights
thank you so much, I love getting comments from you, they are so thought out, you are great, do you know that?............well you are, and you have a great mind on your shoulders............thank you
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 12:14 PM
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Tapsel-T
thank you very much..........I am on my way...but first I saw IR commnet so I will answer him first
thank you
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 12:13 PM
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Symphony,
I wouldn't worry too much about it. Editing can take a long time, even for a professional editor whose job is to get through your one manuscript. I'm sure your friend has other things, which is why it's better to hire someone if you want to get it done quicker. I would ask to see it, just so you can see where she is and get some peace of mind.
I don't think she'll steal it, but if you have another copy of the book go ahead and mail it to yourself, and leave it unopened so you can demonstrate if you need to that you have an earlier copy if she sends it in to get published and says it's hers. I'm not too clear on the legal options but I think this would work, and if not it can't hurt!
posted by
InherentRights
on September 19, 2004 at 12:09 PM
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SYMPH - Sorry you are bored. I was inspired by you to
make prettier blogs so I started a new one "Golden Glimpses" that you can look at while you are bored.
posted by
TAPS.
on September 19, 2004 at 12:07 PM
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HAS ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING I CAN READ...THAT I HAVE NOT READ
already..............I am bored
or does anybody fancy a chat.....................before the community cafe gets it....................lol
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 11:59 AM
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tbgroucho
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 10:41 AM
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seek other opinions
i'd offer mine, but Runs_at_Dawn is still waiting to hear from me and i feel miserable about not getting back to her sooner! tg
posted by
tbgroucho
on September 19, 2004 at 10:39 AM
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telynor
thank you very much for understanding and of course reading
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 10:37 AM
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Yeah, I'd be pretty annoyed too.
posted by
telynor
on September 19, 2004 at 10:35 AM
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chris2303
lol.............ok........that might be an idea......
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 7:44 AM
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SYMPHONY
Just to be safe, take one of her pets hostage. Then give her a deadline of three weeks.
posted by
chris2303
on September 19, 2004 at 7:32 AM
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Oceandancer
thank you, thats a great idea...............I think I will join up a writing class..............thank you so much..............thats a neat idea.................thank you very much...............take care
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 6:49 AM
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Hi Symphony
Here's what I know about waiting and writing...it's to be expected. When you actually get to the point of sending off a manuscript it's not unusual to wait months even over a year for a reply.
Now for right now, a writing class (I've taken many) is a great way to improve your own editing so you don't need to rely on friends. And writing groups can help provide the editing eye of the many people in the group. They're worth it and out there.
When writing's in the blood, nothing can stand in your way.
posted by
Oceandancer
on September 19, 2004 at 6:35 AM
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mariantonia
thank you
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 6:00 AM
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Its easier to detect online stuff plagiarism than a book's plagiarism. She could have copied the files/material. Sorry I don't know how to deal with this. Maybe lodge a report with details, date you gave it to her, your original version of the book. any other verbal agreement etc. Like a civil case police report. Keep it safely in case you may need to use this as evidence one day. Maybe others will have other ideas on this matter.
posted by
mariantonia
on September 19, 2004 at 5:56 AM
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mariantonia
yes I must and I should stand firm on this......................so what should I do?.....................lol
seriously.........
should I tell her not to worry about doing it now?
but then will I have to worry about her keeping it for herself or writing a very simular by changing my words, and passing it off as her own?
I am not entirly sure if she would do any of that , because I am too trusting and I am not a very good judge of charactor and I have not even known her long and she is into writing
oh gosh I am a fool.............writing this comment to you has opened my eyes on how even more stupid I am ........argh
its too late.............right?
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 5:36 AM
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I don't know the character of that friend so I can't comment much. An editor is just that; not a co-writer. She didn't ask your permission to be a co-writer, you didn't volunteer to share the writing of the book - there's no "we". The new symphony is going to stand firm on this!
posted by
mariantonia
on September 19, 2004 at 5:27 AM
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drewe
thank you.
.......well yeah she is an ok friend......thank you so much...for reading and commenting...take care
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 5:24 AM
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is she a good friend? That's not a nice thing to do, especially if she decides to take credit for your work. You should ask for it back soon.
posted by
drewe
on September 19, 2004 at 5:17 AM
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hugz_n_kisses
yes I wish I had now but I feel so guilty because she is doing it as a friend
thank you........take care
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 3:26 AM
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scriber
thank you so much for your advice, you are wonderful, thank you..............I think I will do that, have a nice day......take care
posted by
_Symphony_
on September 19, 2004 at 3:25 AM
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imgoing to need an editor too
well if you have acopy, send itto a real editor perhapsxoxxoxoxoxox
posted by
hugz_n_kisses
on September 19, 2004 at 3:12 AM
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Symp--editing can take a long time. But, you should set a deadline with
your friend. Tell her you want to publish in say, eight weeks. She has had five weeks and you expect her to return the work in three weeks, finished or not. This is an estimated and you can do what you want, but set some definite times. love f.
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on September 19, 2004 at 3:12 AM
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