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Relax, Westwend, I'm not advocating destroying anyone else's icons or places of worship. I'm not a literal iconoclast. I simply believe that there is one God, and one path to him, Jesus. Others can believe that or not, that's the crux of free will. Theyr're free to worship little yellow rubber duckies.
It's laissez-faire do-whatever-feels-good acceptance of debauchery, corruption, and vapidity, a worship of BMWs and flat stomachs, that is the problem with this country, not Christians.
posted by
Blanche.
on September 13, 2004 at 3:49 PM
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Westwind - I read a lot of the posts on religion & spirituality and I think
somehow I am missing something (not unusual for me. haha). I would like to focus on your comment, ".......imagine then that another Christian denomination is saying this and excluding yours from the salvation that they see". What I don't understand is, if a person has their own beliefs about salvation, whatever that might mean to them, why would they care if another denomination excluded them from their salvation? Or, if a person believes that there is no need for salvation, why would they care if a Christian excluded them from heaven if they don't believe in heaven. Or, if an atheist believes that someone is off-beam for believing in salvation through Christ, why would the Christian care? If a person really believes what they believe, why would they care what someone else thinks about them? I do not look down on people who believe differently than do I. I do wish that others would believe in Christ and his salvation because I believe that would be good for them, but why would they care that I think that, if they really believe that I am wrong?
posted by
TAPS.
on September 13, 2004 at 3:36 PM
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i love that word
posted by
frankk
on September 13, 2004 at 3:21 PM
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stop, Mary x and think about what you saying.
now, imagine that a moslem said what you just said
or a buddhist
or an atheist.
now, let's imagine something else.
what Christian denomination are you?
imagine then that another Christian denomination is saying this and excluding yours from the salvation that they see.
in order to protect your religious liberties you must protect all others.
that is the foundation of our country.
posted by
Xeno-x
on September 13, 2004 at 2:51 PM
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A Fanatic Responds
Okay, I'll bite. I'm unreasonable. Unlike your statement that you believe that salvation comes through various forms, I believe that salvation only comes through Christ. There are no dualities or diversities: either you believe that or you don't. So, I can't be wishywashy and say I accept all forms of religion as equally valid, because I don't. We could try a system like Yugoslavia after Tito with revolving presidencies based on ethnic affiliations, but that turned out badly.
I do believe that "Without God, all things are possible" (Dostoevsky) and not in a good way. I'm not tolerant of everyone's ideas, because tolerance without discrimination or discernment only leads to corruption and decadence. Without God as the ultimate moral arbiter, human hubris and greed is out of control, pride and vanity lead to heartlessness and cold contempt, and the rich and powerful take control and the poor become oppressed, which is exactly what is happening.
Fanatic: {adj inspired by Fanaticus L, inspired by a deity, frenzied fr. Temple.} marked by excessive enthusiam and often intense uncritical devotion. Do I fit this description, because I am Christian? I am enthusiastic and devoted but not uncritical.
posted by
Blanche.
on September 13, 2004 at 2:05 PM
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