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What drugs am I on?…There is Only One…it’s called “The Truth”.
posted by
justAcarpenter
on August 24, 2004 at 9:51 PM
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Ok kooka
Here it is.
In order for there to be a God, Part 9
posted by
justAcarpenter
on August 24, 2004 at 9:42 PM
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just A
What drugs are you on?
Are you aware of every single blood cell in your body? Do you have say over when they are created and when they are going to cease to be?
As for somehow making it so the idea of cause and effect are related to our future already being planned, that makes no sense at all. If anything cause and effect go against that idea. Cause and effects says that if one thing happens it leads to another. The only way for it to work they way you are saying is for us to not have any freedom. Our free will is just a game then and we are merely puppets. If we are to have no control over our lives, then the cause is already taken care of and therefore is irrelevant in the idea of cause and effect. The basic reasoning that comes from studying cause and effect is 'think before you do something because you actions will effect things'. And that does not work at all with the idea of pre planned destiny.
This depressing view of life having no meaning scares me. I find it hard to believe anyone would wish to live life believing that they have no control over what happens. We have choices and our future is not written. There is no power that has control over when we live and when we die. We are no puppets for God's entertainment. We are what we choose to make ourselves in to and there is no higher power there to stop us. WHy do you so wish to limit people's potential in such a way? You are saying that we can only achieve what we were meant to achieve and nothing more. So why even try then? If our fate is already determined then the most logical thing is to do nothing and allow those higher powers to push us along.
posted by
kooka_lives
on August 17, 2004 at 7:11 AM
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I said, "Answer these things, did the Universe create you or not?"
You said, “Yes and no. It did but not knowingly, just as we create blood and skin and such, but we really are not aware that we are doing it.”
It does not really matter whether it did so knowingly or not…it is did so…period
We, as people, are aware of the fact that these things (creation of blood and skin) are occurring within the universe of our bodies. Are you sure, absolutely sure, that the Universe is unaware of you, and that your life is occurring?
You have said, What would be the point to living, if your life has been planned? Well, even if it has been planned, you still like living don’t you? If you did decide to accept that something higher than you exists, and planned your life…what are you going to do…end it? Or continue on to see what unfolds?
You do believe in the Universal law of Cause and Effect, don’t you? Everything that you are right now, is the effect of a cause that came from a cause that came from a cause, that goes all the way back to the very beginning of time itself. This law clearly states, if it is true, that you life is planned and you do have a destiny.
posted by
justAcarpenter
on August 16, 2004 at 7:19 PM
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The "creator argument" is flawed. Anyone can just ask, "Who made God?" and so on. It's basically a circular argument that goes nowhere.
posted by
aardvark
on August 16, 2004 at 9:01 AM
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