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Thanks, DavidS, I am always glad to know others have an understanding
of Pitbulls and their sweet nature. In fact, I just sewed up a Pitbull today that jumped from my clients' couch and landed by banging his shoulder into the coffee table. He was obviously in pain, but wagged his tail and gave me kisses the entire time.

posted by SpitFire70 on August 10, 2004 at 8:06 PM | link to this | reply

I love pitbulls
I've personally known a few pitbulls in my life and they were flatout
adorable dogs, full of love and showed it to me everytime I approached them.

And I agree with you on many other observations you made about humans
here on Blogit as well

I LOVE DOGS !

David

posted by David_S on August 10, 2004 at 9:59 AM | link to this | reply

Thank you, StrickG,
I appreciate ya chiming in on this. Pits get a bad rap all the time and from my professional experiences, I've actually been bit by more Chihuahuas and Chows than any other breed! (Not to say Chihuahuas or Chows are all mean, well Chows, hmmmm...) but any dog can be. Yes, it does matter how they're raised, too. If a puppy shows ANY signs of aggression, it should be dealt with right then and there. (Not by more violence like hitting it or "spanking" it! That just makes it worse.) But with proper correction. Thanks again!

posted by SpitFire70 on August 2, 2004 at 10:08 PM | link to this | reply

I agree with Spitfire on this one

I owned a Pit for many years and he was nothing more than a big baby.  Any dog of any breed can be vivious!  It is all in how they are raised and cared for. 

posted by StrickGold on August 2, 2004 at 7:45 PM | link to this | reply

Man, HolyG, I LOVE stories like that.
Thanks!

posted by SpitFire70 on July 24, 2004 at 3:26 PM | link to this | reply

Spitfire
I wish I had seen that episode!  We had a beautiful white pit at the shelter a few years ago who also survived abuse with his sweet temperament intact.  He had been dragged behind a car and the pads on his feet were pretty much gone, along with some of his toes.  He was bloody and spooked when he was brought in...But still wagged his tail when the staff came near him.  He was named Spirit, and after a period of rehab in the clinc, was adopted by a nice lady and her young son.  He's now living like a king and couldn't be more deserving.     

posted by Holy_Grail on July 24, 2004 at 7:55 AM | link to this | reply

Right, Tapsel, I see what you're saying.
Exactly the point when you said "when innocent people are attacked." That's the key word. I thought about you last night cause I was watching Animal Precinct on Animal Planet. They had a few different cases of neglect & cruelty to pitbulls. They took them from the so-called "owners" and rescued them. Even after humans had beaten, starved, fought them, etc., they still were as sweet as can be; even to strangers. However, I'm not saying they may not be safe with other dogs after being trained to fight, but at least they are no threat to humans. I was hoping you may have caught it. Anyway, I think we agree for the most part.

posted by SpitFire70 on July 23, 2004 at 4:40 PM | link to this | reply

Spitfire70 -

I was referring to you comment about a chihuahua biting an ankle not being on the news.    Of course they don't put every little thing on the news, only the biggies.

We are talking about two different things here.  I definitely agree with you about human beings being by large the reasons that animals are aggressive.  And surely you will agree with me that pitbulls are more often trained to attack than are chihuahuas.   The problem arises that when innocent victims come in contact with an animal, they cannot know ahead of time which animal has been mistreated or trained to attack.  

posted by TAPS. on July 23, 2004 at 8:47 AM | link to this | reply

Tapsel-T, without nit-picking on examples,

I can offer this. I had a client in my waiting room that didn't have her cat in a carrier (clearly posted in the waiting room for saftey of people and their pets) that was holding it in her arms when a dog simply walked in the door on a leash with his owner. The cat flipped out just by seeing the dog and tore her owner's face up. Is this cat now to be labeled as vicious?

    The POINT is that regardless of the severity of a domestic animal attack, there is usually a provoking reason for the action.

posted by SpitFire70 on July 22, 2004 at 10:16 PM | link to this | reply

Come on...........
A chihuahua biting a kid's ankle is a little different from a pit bull ripping up a little one's face and head causing 123 stitches to be needed.

posted by TAPS. on July 22, 2004 at 8:38 PM | link to this | reply

David1S,
Ahh, I see. Well, I do like PassionF a lot, but hey, we can all disagree about stuff now and then. Guess that's what makes life so interesting!

posted by SpitFire70 on July 22, 2004 at 5:22 PM | link to this | reply

Welcome Spitfire!
Actually, while reading your post, which was about her (passionflower) post; I found out that she was doing some major Motown bashing in her posts recently, which I really don't care for. So I decided to pay her a visit!

posted by David1Spirit on July 22, 2004 at 5:17 PM | link to this | reply

Well, thank you David1S,

I appreciate the comment and support.

posted by SpitFire70 on July 22, 2004 at 5:08 PM | link to this | reply

HolyG,
You're totally right. And, I do understand that those who are not in the animal field of work may not understand or realize these things. Any dog can be trained to be vicious. I think if more people knew HOW these poor creatures are trained, they'd have a different take on the matter.

posted by SpitFire70 on July 22, 2004 at 5:07 PM | link to this | reply

No, Tapsel-T, they are true, however,

How many dog attacks do you think happen every day by other breeds? Many. Now, ARE THEY ON THE NEWS?? No. Why? 2 Reasons: Cause normally the news is only a half hour long and it may take up too much time to report on them all, and secondly, it's not an interesting thing to report on. See, the media jumps all over ANYTHING that will get the public in an uproar or at least gain their interest. Same as we do as bloggers to gain readers. So, whatever is "juicier" is what will get reported. How interesting would it be to read about a Chihuahua biting a kid on the ankle? If ya heard it reported a couple of times, guess what happens? Chihuahua's are now labeled as VICIOUS.

   Also, the media is to blame for not telling the whole story. The real facts behind MANY, MANY of the "attacks" or bites to some kid was due to that kid was taunting, teasing, throwing things, and harrassing that dog on a regular basis and the dog finally snaps. I am not excusing a dog biting or attacking anyone, child or adult, but how would YOU feel if you were the dog? Well, if you were the teased dog that finally snapped, you'd probably be dead cause the county forced euthanasia on you even though you've never had any aggressive history.

posted by SpitFire70 on July 22, 2004 at 4:59 PM | link to this | reply

Spitfire!

Very good post! You made your point and you are right. I too am a dog lover I appreciate you stepping up! 

posted by David1Spirit on July 22, 2004 at 4:42 PM | link to this | reply

Spitfire
Well you stole my thunder!  My next post was going to be "Much Maligned and Misunderstood."  Anyway, I guess I pretty much bought into the whole myth that pitbulls were just "born bad" before I started volunteering at the shelter 5 years ago.  But in that time I've seen that pits like Sophie (who my sister adopted at the shelter) are the rule rather than the exception.  We had one at the shelter a few years ago who wagged his tail so hard against the kennel wall that he made his tail bleed!  Now I will agree that they have become a problem.  But it isn't their fault.  It's what people are doing to them.  I know all too well the kind of "owner" Passionflower was talking about.  When they are chained up outside like that used as guard dogs or for fighting, they are very dangerous because of those jaws.  They are capable of inflicting terrible damage, which is why these idiots are attracted to them. (How sick is that?)  But it's not inherent in their nature to just be that way.  But if a person isn't exposed to the environments you and I are, it's easy to see how one can have that perception.  If a dog attack get reported that involves another breed, it is reported as "a dog."  But if it's a pitbull, Rotweiller, German Shepherd et al, the breed most definitely is mentioned.  I don't have a pit (I have German Shepherds and find it amazing that some people are so afraid of them!), but they have definitely become my favorite breed after having gotten to know them.  I love to have my niece over to spend the night.  But I am very glad that it's my sister's other dog who hates me and bit my boob.  If it had been Sophie, I might not HAVE a boob now.          

posted by Holy_Grail on July 22, 2004 at 4:19 PM | link to this | reply

Spitfire70 - When you speak of.....
media vendetta against pitbuls, are you saying the articles of people being killed and maimed by pit bulls are not true?

posted by TAPS. on July 22, 2004 at 8:27 AM | link to this | reply

Spitfire70 -
Sorry that I shortened your name to Spit when I commented.  It doesn't sound very nice does it.  I won't do it again.  Spitfire 70 sounds much nicer.

posted by TAPS. on July 22, 2004 at 6:43 AM | link to this | reply