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good night chet
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 23, 2004 at 6:02 PM
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THANKS DAVID
posted by
liquidrhythmnine
on July 23, 2004 at 2:09 PM
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Thanks David.
posted by
liquidrhythmnine
on July 23, 2004 at 2:08 PM
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I agree , and that is what love is. A propor behavior pattern that we do not need to be told to do because we are all already equipped to do so. Trust me I am one who will beleive what I want and not how I am told to. I was told to believe in God all my life and I questioned the validity of the religion. I sat in a seat of atheism for years and then God presented himself to me. He did not tell me to believe, he simply showed me an option. I chose that option with my own ideas on how things worked. As I said earlier just love your nieghbor and you will be fine. Not because God told you to but because whether we are a creation of God or something else we have this ability greater than all others that we possess. It is the meaning of life however it happened.
posted by
liquidrhythmnine
on July 23, 2004 at 2:07 PM
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liquidrhythmnine
You make a few good popints (har har)! Your views are very good, but the thing I like best about you is your sense of tolerance and acceptance for others views. You are a good and peaceful soul, my friend! 
posted by
David1Spirit
on July 23, 2004 at 12:07 PM
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liquidrhythmnine -- aye, there's the popint . . .
what's a popint?
you'd really like to know, wouldn't you?
It's just point with a typo in the middle.
the popint is: we all grow up and our behavior is to respond to others' standards of behavior -- we do or don't do something "Because mama tells us to." It's a higher behavior pattern to do or not do something not because somebody tells us to, but because we have determined for ourselves whether or not it is a proper behavior pattern.
This is where I see Kooka as acting on a higher plain than those who do or not do "Because God tells us to."
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 23, 2004 at 6:20 AM
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I do agree that those that do not believe are not lost and have nothing. They do have strength through thier families and friends. Truthfully I used to think the same that I alone controlled the outcomes of my life. I came to realize that it was not just me out there. This universe is far to elaborate for me to walk through alone. For me God is there. But not in the sense of others in organized religion. Idon't worship abuilding or a book, but a being. Throw out all the political jibberish of organized religions and you meet at love. They have all missed the point. God is not a government. If you choose to beleve that he is not there that's cool. But just make sure that you do what he he would want you to do if you did beleive in him. And that is love. For others and yourself. Love others no matter what thier differences or thier weaknesses. And love yourself and evolve into a higher state of humanity. In my eyes as long as you did this if you died and saw that there was a God he would still let you in even though you might not have beleived before. Because unknowingly you did his work and were a success with it. So take a look at it through these eyes and not those who say they know God's word but really have no clue about him. No harm No foul just make sure you live your life lovin and you will be fine.
posted by
liquidrhythmnine
on July 22, 2004 at 8:59 PM
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Hi Kooka
I can't take to heart the opinions of others. We have to find our own way and know that it is going to be the best for us. Are we spiritual for the next world. Or are we spiritual for this world. Will there ever be ice cream and summertime in eternity?
posted by
man-boy
on July 22, 2004 at 7:59 PM
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gosh guys
here I am building Kooka up and really showing all his good traits to yo and how he is better than a lot of Christians and nobody is commenting?
garsh, did I finally quiet you all up?
hardly possible.
hey!
bring it on!
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 22, 2004 at 4:56 PM
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the fruit of the tree
Paul said, "By their fruits, ye shall know them."
Kooka has exhibited more of those "fruits of the spirit" than virtually every Christian I have known.
Paul said, "against such, there is no law."
Kooka is sinless, in other words.
while Christians who in their hypocritical manner flaunt these things are are selfish and unnecessarily angry and impatient and such (see I Cor 13) are exhibiting -- now which fruits are they exhibiting? - could it be that adverse fruits that Paul talks about in the same passage as I quoted above?
Who will come away better justified in God's sight? Remember the parable of the Pharisee vs. the Publican at the altar.
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 22, 2004 at 6:28 AM
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GOOD AND EVIL IN THE GARDEN
It was God that ruined the garden. How's that? The God of good and evil -- the god of God Vs. Satan. The god that says that there must be all this concept that religious believers embrace. The srepent in the Garden wasn't Satan or the Devil or Lucifer or Ba'alzebub or anything like that (these are names found in the Bible and all put together, along with others, to personify evil, just as God is the way to personify "perfect good" -- no -- the serpent was religion and a concept of law vs. sin and good vs. evil and God vs. the Devil.
Okay, so that aside, what about Kooka?
Yeah I know him, being his father aside. He's a rock to his friends, a beacon of stability and confidence to many who look for such and a scion of responsibility.
A solid person who respects others and gives diligently to any situation in which he finds himself and is so honest that he risks adverse reactions from his employer -- not an ass-kisser, in other words -- much like me -- I lost a few jobs because of not being an ass-kisser, while the ass-kissers kept their jobs where they mainly stood around and talked to the boss instead of pitching in and doing the job they were supposed to be doing.
He's a better man than I am and I grew up accepting the God passed down through the millenia.
He's a better person than many Christians I have met, who, in promoting their Christianity, bulled through and pushed through and ramrodded their beliefs without consideration for others; or, who used their religion to excuse for their disregard for others and were basically "unChristian" -- I've known quite a few of those. I could tell a lot of tales across the denominational board.
Kooka respects others, is honest, is hardworking and diligent and faithful and all that and he doesn't have to be, in Christian terms, for he just is that way.
How many of you can say that?
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 22, 2004 at 6:22 AM
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sorry
but without God can there be Satan? How do we know of evil without knowing of good? Grasping relations is how our mind works -- why do they teach opposites so early in child development? If you take away good then how can we recognize evil without having some concept of good in our minds somewhere? We couldn't call any acts anything at all.
tg
posted by
tbgroucho
on July 21, 2004 at 10:15 PM
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Hi kooka_lives -- welcome back
I trust all is working itself out gradually and wish for you a smoother road than the last little while. I know where you are coming from as you can imagine.
I once had a lay priest ask me if I sacrificed chickens. ( maybe I mentioned that one before ) For the most part the majority of believers cannot comprehend the notion of having a complete life without a belief in God. When one considers the premise of the classic struggle between good represented by God and evil represented by Satan it simply beomes a reactionary extension of logic. Remove God and all that is left is evil or at least fertile ground for evil seeds to be planted. It's sad isn't it ? I've had half witted people I wouldn't trust to carry my briefcase tell me I'm stupid because I am not a believer or malevolent little twirps who should be in jail tell me I am evil using the same reasoning. I hear ya man. I know exactly of what you speak.
posted by
gomedome
on July 21, 2004 at 8:09 PM
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kooka
thanks! great articulation of my own ambivalences. Sorry for the recent tough times, though. tg
posted by
tbgroucho
on July 21, 2004 at 6:44 PM
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