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paul475...
...you describe Christianity as I feel it. We live in interesting times for the believers. Faith seems to be a journey taken via a vehicle whose fuel is one part intellect, one part feeling, and one part Holy Spirit.
You are right. The day of judgment will be like nothing we've been told. At some point, the human race will have no choice but to make a decision, to exercise judgment, regarding its place in God's creation. This decision will rely on intuition and common sense.
What's interesting is how people take sides in wars. Nobody broaches the notion that perhaps, just perhaps, neither side is right or on a good path. Yet it is clear that neither side ever has God on its side in war. God is right when we are at war. And what is He saying that's right? At times, I wonder if He is saying this:
"War is not the answer to the question, no matter how pragmatically correct and necessary conflict and retaliation seem."
posted by
BrWiSk
on July 24, 2004 at 1:33 PM
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Sorry, Dood...
...you're quite the budding fascist.
Read history, shortcake. Mussolini, Hitler's partner in crime, referred to, :"fascism," as, "corporatism." No one can reasonably argue that BushCo is anything less than a wholely owned subsidiary of the interests of megacorporations. The ones who take jobs overseas and leave us with the mess, not the ones we form to avoid paying unfair taxes.
From the obsession with the arcanely occult to the treatment of European Jews, no one who understands the Third Reich could call it anything but evil incarnate. And here we are staring down the barrel of a Fourth Reich and the only facts we have serving in its favor is that the first three superheated and imploded, spiritually, economically, ethically, morally and finally, militarily.
Did you notice that those orange jumpsuits that those alleged terrorists placed our citizens in bare a striking resemblence to the orange jumpsuits we put the Iraqi prisoners in? The same with the chairs used in some of the videotapes.
My point is that our own intelligence operatives are controlling who gets nabbed and how things end up, not these supposed terrorists. No, the one's weilding the knives are most likely not Americans by blood, but they are working in cahoots with American-sponsored interests.
Bush is evil. Cheney is more evil, if that's even possible. Rove, Rumsfeld, Perle and Wolfowitz are just as warped in their, "thinking." And I use that term very loosely because it is not possible to actually THINK apart from one's own Creator.
If you dig into these characters a little further you will find them associated with known killers, pedofiles and people who satanically, ritually abuse young children to be used as political weapons against opponents or those who might consider straying from this amoral and hideous path.
The Founding Fathers of our country could have been considered, "terrorists." Read Orwell's, 1984. The Mossad and the American intelligence services have conspired to create these monsters so that they can make war against us. And the reason they do this is purely for capitalistic reasons. Without haves and have-nots, money doesn't move from one place to another. War creates these conditions and war perpetuates them. Karl Marx made this point and the governing cabal knows he was correct. That's why they allowed communism to come to the fore in the first place.
Nothing happens in this world without a rich man deciding that it be so. Then they sit back and watch what happens while they decide which governing method produces the most harmony, efficiency and economic prosperity (for them, mostly -- wealth does have its priviledges).
I know members of the FBI, special forces, and the like. None of them like the monsters we have in the Whitehouse right now. They are worse than awful human beings. They are like lizards. They feed on our misery. Just like the prophets foretold us that they would.
But don't worry about being absolutely upside-down about whom you are choosing to serve. Even Lucifer was created by God. The day of last judgment won't be about God deciding against us; it will be about each of us deciding whether or not we can live apart from the Will of God and still survive. As if there weren't plenty of examples in nature of what happens to a plant that gets cut off from its root. Lucifer isn't really a lizard with horns. He's just the collective wiz-dumb of every human ego on the planet. When we all learn to let our egoes go to our Father, they will each come back to us with some very simple instructions.
Love one another. Do ONLY this. Nothing less and nothing more.
Had we been doing this all along, there wouldn't be a reason for politically-inspired terror. But there also wouldn't be a reason for capitalism to continue to exist. I'm not willing to let it go right now, either, but there will come a time when it can be released and we can trust each other to do the right thing. But not at the moment.
posted by
Volaar
on July 22, 2004 at 12:55 PM
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Hey Paul...
Good work on the info. But your analysis is backwards, as usual. York is correct in his assessments about the CIA now hamstringing itself because of liberal wimps who put non-existent terrorists' "rights" ahead of American citizens.
Getting the information is of utmost importance no matter the cost to the terrorist who wants to kill you and me and millions if he can. Those bastards need to give it up or be killed. No ifs and or butts about it. It's either us or them, period. Yes it is that black and white because you cannot negotiate with terrorists.
Look at what they do to our civilians. They torture them and cut their heads off wearing masks while video taping it. They don't even have the guts to show themselves! That is massive evil and must be stopped at all costs by our military. Who's side are you on anyway? Are you a terrorist sympathizer? Sure sounds like it. Maybe the FBI should talk to you, eh?
Seems libs want to protect them so they can do more damage to America. Is that it? No wonder libs are so hateful these days. Kerry will not be elected because he's far too weak to deal with terrorism in any successful manner. We let you have Clintoon and he blew it bigtime, hence 9/11, and we ain't about to make that mistake again!
DAE
posted by
DEMSareEVIL
on July 21, 2004 at 9:00 PM
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Everything they say is projection. Every hateful, fearful word they sling at their enemies, or those they perceive to be their enemies, describes an aspect of themselves they are afraid to acknowledge. That's the danger of black-and-white thinking -- whatever cannot be acknowledged must be projected. But I still have hope. Most people in this country aren't crazy, just ill-informed. I think they'll wake up, give Bush the boot, and then things will be a lot better. (By the way, if you do a google search on "Bush antichrist" you get a lot of very bizarre sites.)
posted by
Eeek
on July 20, 2004 at 2:08 PM
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These guys from National Review, like Byron York, are complete idiots
but they get respect b/c they have respectable college degrees, dress preppy, look like nerds, and can be counted on to defend conservative causes in any and every instance.
posted by
t_rat
on July 20, 2004 at 1:35 PM
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