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Beautiful as usual
I wish I could give you more than a T-shirt. :)
posted by
Lili
on March 26, 2004 at 11:42 AM
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Skidd
Thank You
And I do write fiction
posted by
kooka_lives
on March 26, 2004 at 11:35 AM
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Kooka
This is the best blog you ever wrote! I smiled throughout. I'll bet you could write fiction. This blog flowed well, contained many ideas and stayed interesting to the very end. Even though I disagree with some things you stated, you deserve a huge thumbs-up.
posted by
Skidd
on March 26, 2004 at 12:11 AM
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And also
Any form of creator-God who preexisted it all is also mathematically and scientifically impossible. So just about every problem you have with the scientific ideas behind it all can be said about the biblical ideas as well.
posted by
kooka_lives
on March 25, 2004 at 4:28 PM
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Why is this so hard for some people to understand?
Science does not claim to have all the answer. if ti did, then there would be very little point of anyone becoming a scientist. But the idea of a God does not solve the problem. It still create the circle, because God has to have come from somewhere. Unless you wish to invalidate you whole point that everything must come from something. In the end something either God or the universe came form nothing. I believe it was the universe, you believe it was God. In both there is the same level of faith needed. Now with science at least they can grow and learn and go in new directions as they discover new things, while with the Bible you are 100% stuck with what you got. So I would rather have the ability to grow and learn the new truths that science can produce, instead of being stuck with the simple mindless truths of the Bible that have no real logic to them. The Bible is an outdated tool.
posted by
kooka_lives
on March 25, 2004 at 4:21 PM
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kooka . . .
this is exactly my point . . . science - "pure science" that is, without any theology or philosophy intermixed - simply does not have an explanation for the origin of matter, the universe, life, or anything else. It is only through belief, throu faith if you will, in a supernatural being who predates it all, and whose origin is simply nonexistent . . . a being who has always been . . . that anything else could have come into existence.
Without that, you do indeed have the never-ending argument you so accurately point out. . . if you insist that there must be a non-miraculous, scientifically valid explanation for everything, you're going to constantly be arguing yourself in circles.
There are only two alternatives. Either science itself is completely invalid, and matter can be created from nothing (big bang), or an all-powerful God exists, and is capable of creating matter (and the scientific laws that govern its behavior) Himself.
. . . there are no other options.
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posted by
mjdaniels
on March 25, 2004 at 12:27 PM
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Then you are back in the circle
Where did God come from? God would have had to come from something as well. At some point you have to except the idea that something did come from nothing. It makes more sense to me for the big bang to have happened and everything was created from that, including a 'God' if there is one over the idea that somehow there just was a 'God' who created it all. Every story needs a beginning. The big bang is the beginning of everything we know. although there is the idea that it is a repeating cycle hundreds of thousands of billions year long cycle, but a cycle none the less. The main problem is and always will be how did it all start and that we really can not answer. No one can, not science and not the Bible.
posted by
kooka_lives
on March 25, 2004 at 11:28 AM
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kooka . . .
You give a pretty thorough explanation of theistic evolution here . . . but you really don't get to the heart of the matter. You assert that God, if he/she/it exists must have been created as a result of the "big bang," because the system had to have something keeping it in order . . . but how do you answer this question: . . .
. . . if God came about at the same time as the big bang that supposedly created everything else . . . where did the big bang come from? A huge explosion that results in a little sub-microscopic dot of infinite mass expanding into the entire known universe is not only mathematically and scientifically impossible . . . but it still doesn't answer the question of who created that exploding dot.
and that is why the only possible explanation for the universe we have today - whatever your religion or lack thereof - is some form of creator-God who preexisted it all.
posted by
mjdaniels
on March 25, 2004 at 10:45 AM
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Yup yup yup
Great story, and about how I had it pictured. Only problem is, I can't even wrap my mind around the extent and substance of what makes up the universe. So I have a real problem going further, and trying to wrap my mind around who or what God is. Dumb little human brains he gave us only go so far... I'll just settle with "He is". Yeah, that sounds about right.
posted by
Sandy919
on March 23, 2004 at 6:35 PM
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