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kooka, for the record, I'm AGAINST Sunday blue laws since Sunday is NOT
the Biblical sabbath. As for Saturdays, if I owned a business it would be closed on that day, but I would never ask seek the governments help in closing down stores on my Sabbath.
posted by
Ariala
on March 14, 2004 at 7:13 PM
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Oh and Bearden
Not all Wal-Marts are open 24/7. And that was not the point any way. It was a store which carried a better selection and it was very far out of the way. We were hoping to see what they had and were unable to. The party it self will mostly have our friends and family there, so there will be a fair amount of kids around three and four years old, so we are putting things together for them.
posted by
kooka_lives
on March 14, 2004 at 7:09 PM
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Bearden
God does not love me, because there is no God.
Ariala, no God does no such thing anywhere in the Bible. I have just gone and tried to find it, and it is not there. At no point does he set up the modern week as we see it. Man does that. God is just a jerk and forces people to go hungry because they wish to go out and do work instead of sitting around doing nothing all day. God just calls it the Sabbath and make to mention of days of the week. It is just a seven day cycle at this point..
posted by
kooka_lives
on March 14, 2004 at 7:06 PM
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P.S.
www.infoplease.com/ce6/society/A0857113.html gives the history of the modern calendar and provides links to the histories of the Christian, Jewish, Islamic, and other calendars.
Just because you don't believe in God doesn't mean that he doesn't love you.
posted by
Bearden
on March 14, 2004 at 7:00 PM
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Genesis
posted by
Ariala
on March 14, 2004 at 6:56 PM
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If there's work to be done then do it, even on the sabbath
..."Why are you doing what is not lawful on the sabbath?" Jesus answered, "Have you not read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? He entered the house of God and took and ate the bread of the Presence, which it is not lawful for any but the priests to eat, and gave some to his companions." Then he said to them, "The Son of Man is lord of the sabbath." (NRSV, Luke 6:2-5)
Wal-mart and the internet are open 24/7. So if you really need to buy party supplies for a one-year old (Who's going to do what with them? Try to eat them probably.) on Sunday you have options.
posted by
Bearden
on March 14, 2004 at 6:55 PM
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Okay then
Where in the Bible does God set the week as we see it now days?
Answer, no where. This was created by man.
posted by
kooka_lives
on March 14, 2004 at 6:28 PM
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kooka, it's not man made...God made the week and asked man to keep
the Seventh day holy (SATURDAY). Since Creation, the weekly cycle GOD set up with the Sabbath, have remained in tact. It wasn't until Constantine decreed that the new Sabbath was now going to be Sunday, that they decided to change days of worship. After all, the pagans were SUN worshippers and kept Sunday in honor of their sun god. This wasn't good for the Papacy's pocketbook, so they had to change the Sabbath to Sunday. They use the excuse that Christ rose from the day on Sunday, but there is absolutely no verse in the Bible that commands God's people to keep Sunday holy. Only one day is mentioned and it is Saturday. Anyway, I know you don't believe in God, but I think it's important to keep the facts straight.
posted by
Ariala
on March 14, 2004 at 6:16 PM
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I never said
That the cycle was off, but that it was man made. Some one decided to say 'Let's make Sunday the first day of the week'. It was not divine in any way. So therefore it is a one in seven chance of getting the Sabbath right. And Like I said, I could go and figure out some way to defend each and every say as the first day of the week. We only draw up our calendars with Sunday as the first day of the week.
posted by
kooka_lives
on March 14, 2004 at 6:11 PM
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position = possession
posted by
Ariala
on March 14, 2004 at 5:56 PM
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This is just not correct. I have documents in my position that show that
the weekly cycle has been unaltered. James Roberston of the U.S. Naval Observatory was quoted as saying "We have had occasion to investigate the results of the works of specialists in chronology and we have never found one of them that has ever had the slightest doubnt about the continuity of the weekly cycle since long before the Christian era...There has been no change in one calendar in past centuries that has affected in any way the cycle of the week."
Encyclopedia Brittanica "The week is a period of seven days, having no reference whaterver to the celestial motions -- a circumstance to which it owes its unalterable uniformity...It has been employed from time immemorial in almost all eastern countries."
God commanded man to observe the seventh day -- that's Saturday. Sunday is the first day of the week. Jews have kept very strict record of time throughout the world. They know, as does the secular world and community that Saturday is the seventh day. Catholics have kept strict records as well and keep Sunday holy, as do many Protestants (I don't.)
There is absolutely no record that shows that time has been lost and that the weekly cycle is off. Astronomical records show that the weekly cycle starts with the first day Sunday and ends with Saturday, the seventh day.
So, I would be careful what I would post because you're just writing an opinion and it is NOT based on fact. As for the Bible, God separated the day from the night and He is very clear, as were His people, as to which day was the Sabbath.
posted by
Ariala
on March 14, 2004 at 5:56 PM
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