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Rand Paul, the Libertarian who LOVES Medicare & Medicaid?

posted by Raye09 on August 2, 2011 at 6:51 PM | link to this | reply

Re: "gas prices are at record highs"
Stimulus should have been bigger plus doing something about allowing slave labor to flourish overseas and making it possible for decent paying jobs; jobs that can handle the cost of living without driving people into unending debt would have went a looong way in reducing unemployment along with more revenues to apply to Bush's deficit. I am not defending Obama, he is part of the problem too imo, but he did inherit a huge mess from Jr..

posted by Raye09 on August 2, 2011 at 6:40 PM | link to this | reply

NPR and Planned Parenthood are on the block because of idealogy
Their budgets pale in comparison to corporate subsidies.

posted by Raye09 on August 2, 2011 at 6:36 PM | link to this | reply

Tea Partiers who wish to destroy any semblance of order, responsibility for those less fortunate and hopes for stronger individual liberties that are still left say drown the baby, even if it has the possibility for being the framework of a greater common good....Government can do more than the individual, strength in numbers - how many disabled, helpless people or children can one person care for?
In my state we have death panels in place, Corbin - if a person has income over $70.00 per week, they cannot receive Medicaid, no matter the number of people in their family. And Planned Parenthood, which has been proven to not be a major provider of abortions but did treat poor women - lost a huge portion of funding, thanks to our state's Republican governor and lawmakers. So cancer screenings and other health care needs are moot. Only free clinics and the ER left for these citizens. And those are very limited in what they are able to do.
The rancor you sense is based on fear..and speaking of which, your language against the other corrupted party is rather angry sounding...

posted by Raye09 on August 2, 2011 at 4:15 PM | link to this | reply

"despite huge subsidies to the oil companies & the agriculture industry"
I agree completely....and guess what the Tea Party is opposed to all subsidies....not just by picking and choosing our least favorite....including NPR and Planned Parenthood.

posted by Corbin_Dallas on August 2, 2011 at 3:40 PM | link to this | reply

"gas prices are at record highs"
How much were they with this President took office?

What was unemployment when he took office?

Bush's largest deficit was 400 billion......this man has quadrupled that amount and no increase in jobs as a result of the spending.

There's going to be plenty of ammunition for this election......

posted by Corbin_Dallas on August 2, 2011 at 3:32 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Baseline Budgeting..........
Congress cooking the books?? No way..LOL..
But the sad thing is, after the dust settles, the working folks and middle classes are the ones who are saddled with the whims of the filthy rich. Decent jobs are no-where in sight, programs that ensure basic human needs will be met continue to get the blade, privatization of everything raises the cost of living even more, gas prices are at record highs as are food prices, despite huge subsidies to the oil companies and to the agriculture industry, health care is becoming a luxury for so many, yet we are supposed to accept continuing tax cuts for the wealthiest and mega corps., out of control spending in the corrupted DoD - because these expenditures keep us employed, prices down..and democracy safe..Really?..hmm, when governance goes to the highest, behind the scenes but oh so obvious bidders, doesn't act or feel like freedom..

posted by Raye09 on August 2, 2011 at 3:26 PM | link to this | reply

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Really?     If it's would be less than one percent increase instead of 8%.   As to the war....wasn't it this regime's leader that was to end the wars quickly (not to mention close Gitmo).  instead he's as bad as GW with nation-building. 

Are the brothersas bad as the Socialist George Soros?  This regime must come to an end and it will be the Tea Party that does him in......thus the hyper elevated levels of rancor directed at them.  

BTW: We will take 10-12 senate seats and 40 more in the house and then we can slay the bloated cow know as our Fed government.  Even of the Oman steals this one, we can override his vetos......

Excuse me....I gotta go and write another check to Sen. Rand Paul.   Now if we Kentuckians can just get rid of Mitch McConnell!

posted by Corbin_Dallas on August 2, 2011 at 3:21 PM | link to this | reply

I imagine the increases have to happen because of inflation - the war profiteering contractors must keep up! And special interest considerations have a tendency to grow..and grow..both parties are involved in this, of that I have no illusions, Corbin. We really need a tea party that is TRULY for the people, not an orchestrated production put on by the fascist Koch Brothers.

posted by Raye09 on August 2, 2011 at 3:11 PM | link to this | reply

I fear you are correct, FSI.

posted by Raye09 on August 2, 2011 at 2:59 PM | link to this | reply

Baseline Budgeting..........
"Baseline budgeting" is one of those Washington terms that sounds very dry and boring. In reality, baseline budgeting is one of the most sinister ways that politicians claim to cut spending when they are actually increasing spending. The Congressional Budget Office defines the baseline as a benchmark for measuring the budgetary effects of proposed changes in federal revenue or spending, with the assumption that current budgetary policies or current services are continued without change. The baseline includes automatic adjustments for inflation and anticipated increases in program participation. Baseline, or current services, budgeting, therefore builds automatic, future spending increases into Congress's budgetary forecasts.

Baseline budgeting tilts the budget process in favor of increased spending and taxes. For example, if an agency's budget is projected to grow by $100 million, but only grows by $75 million, according to baseline budgeting, that agency sustained a $25 million cut. That is analogous to a person who expects to gain 100 pounds only gaining 75 pounds, and taking credit for losing 25 pounds.

The federal government is the only place this absurd logic is employed.

posted by Corbin_Dallas on August 2, 2011 at 2:56 PM | link to this | reply

Since the fed's method of baseline budgeting means a built in increase in spending of at least 8% per year means that over the next 10 years spending will increase by 10 trillion dollars.  the 2+ trillion so called cut is actually just a decrease in the amount the budget will increase by 7+ trillion.  

Sooooo...If it really cuts spending, why do we have to raise the debt limit by $2.4 trillion?

THERE ARE NO CUTS IN THIS BILL.......just a smaller increase.......

The next thing that's going to happen is that President Obama is going to ask for more stimulus spending as part of his reelection campaign......and with the debt extension Comrade Obama will have 2+ trillion to "spread around" to the right groups to help get out the vote.

posted by Corbin_Dallas on August 2, 2011 at 2:52 PM | link to this | reply

It's going to be a long time before we get the jobs back.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on August 2, 2011 at 9:55 AM | link to this | reply

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Well Sam, I'll just say you have some pretty strong, personal reasons there and I can't blame you - what hell you went through. I will say I believe addiction to any substance is a mental disease, based on what I've went through with family members, but hey a bad apple is still a bad apple! yes, more oversight is needed in most programs, but that would be even more costly and I feel the majority of folks who are deemed eligible for whatever program probably really are.

I can't stomach the thought of anyone going hungry; not without being given a chance - short term, mind you - to fend for themselves.

posted by Raye09 on August 1, 2011 at 10:04 PM | link to this | reply

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In the case of my ex, his only addiction was laziness! He had more excuses to not work than anyone I have met! When I finally said I had had enough and it was too much pressure to support everyone he finally got a job and his only responsibility was to pay the $400 mortgage payment from his $13 an hour job and he put the place in foreclosure twice! It cost me thousands to bail it out! I worked a double shift every other day for 35 days to bail the first one, on the second one I left! I couldn't say who is or isn't worthy but in the case of my ex it feels like he is being rewarded for his life decisions and his laziness! There is no argument for him, he was flat out lazy! He also had two brothers who were in the service and in Vietnam but they came out and got jobs, retirement checks, their own insurance and the like! The unfortunate thing is that one brother died of cancer directly related to Agent Orange! And my ex was in the Navy and never experienced what the other two did! Just a lazy, lazy man! He wouldn't even pay his child support! I had two kids and he had one and I was still assessed $125 week to him, which I paid but he couldn't be bothered to pay his $20 for both kids and he chose jail and then he decided to pay! Then he got angry and all I did was give the money to all three of them because they were nearly grown! I dislike the fact that even one penny of my tax dollars would go for his care!

Regarding your hypothetical, I would never be in favor of denying anyone benefits who was injured in the line of duty! My case in point is directly related to an individual who did not sustain any injury of any kind whatsoever! He never said a thing about PTSS, never acted as though he suffered anything as a result of his service time! He wanted a free ride through life and he got it! His own brothers called him lazy! 

I could care less if the food stamp thing is short term, he still should not get it if he is capable of working and just will not do it!  sam 

posted by sam444 on August 1, 2011 at 9:46 PM | link to this | reply

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So who gets to pick and choose who is worthy? In the case of your ex, it could be argued he had an addiction illness and yes should have gotten treatment before he ruined his health, but when a person is mentally deluded should they be punished for not taking care of themselves? Plus he did serve his country, which qualified him for VA treatment. What if a young soldier is denied treatment because he should have been more careful, more sure footed, more awake or clear headed, etc., etc. when out on a mission - then he wouldn't have been attacked and injured - just a hypothetical of the slippery slope. My views and I respect yours too.
In my area, food stamps for young, healthy people with no dependents are issued for a limited period of time - they are not on an endless gravy train.

posted by Raye09 on August 1, 2011 at 9:20 PM | link to this | reply

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I have mixed emotions on this one too! For example my ex, a veteran, did not nothing but drink excessively for 35 years which increased his chances of getting prostrate cancer! And he did! So he spent a month in a VA hospital getting treatment because there was no one to take care of happy arse! Why? Because his drinking has alienated him from his family! My big question is why the taxpayer needs to foot the bill for his recklessness? And if he is out how many more want the same because they did not take care of themselves? He had every opportunity to work and build a retirement and purchase insurance but he chose another path!

Then, my son's girlfriend's brother, at 20, gets food stamps because he is too lazy to go get a job and there are jobs in my community to be had! Do we really need to be feeding a lazy arse 20 year old, I think not! And I know if he is getting away with it there are plenty more like him! I am all for caring for the aged and the truly poor but we have a lot and I mean a lot of lazy people in this country who do not pull their own weight and they should be the first ones off the social system in my humble opinion! sam 

posted by sam444 on August 1, 2011 at 9:01 PM | link to this | reply

Veteran's benefits on the chopping block - Sam, I am very happy everyone will be getting their checks for the time being. There is an element in DC who want to dismantle the entire government - I believe this and not just from news. I have Tea Party members in my neighborhood and family..
I think the cuts are way too deep - the President could have used the 14th amendment to raise the debt ceiling and continued to stand firm on not hurting people.

posted by Raye09 on August 1, 2011 at 8:43 PM | link to this | reply

All I can say is that I am pleased my son is going to get paid since his life is on the line in Afghanistan! It would be horrible if he lost his house and truck at this point since he could not do a damn thing about it! sam 

posted by sam444 on August 1, 2011 at 8:37 PM | link to this | reply

Doesn't seem fair does it TAPS? But I guess in going through struggles continuous, one learns the strength building ways of communication, reaching out, seeking, learning to cope and the importance of emotional sharing, healing and becoming wiser...the hope. So their worlds expand and the more aware they/ we all become, the better the world in general.

posted by Raye09 on August 1, 2011 at 8:28 PM | link to this | reply

So many people know only crisis after crisis, loss after loss, fear upon fear, worry upon worry.  It should not be so.

posted by TAPS. on August 1, 2011 at 7:48 PM | link to this | reply

Re: i pray that you are feeling much better darling......I have been sleeping
Always the vulnerable and those who help them that are saddled with the whims of the elite, Dear Kabu...good, hard working folks who give much more than their paychecks compensate but are expected to work for less and less and less and..well, you get my point...
Thank you for being You, Sweet Lady and keep your spirits up too..

posted by Raye09 on August 1, 2011 at 6:00 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Raye09
Thank you so much, WileyFriend..

posted by Raye09 on August 1, 2011 at 5:56 PM | link to this | reply

i pray that you are feeling much better darling......I have been sleeping

or working...anything so i don't watch the news.

They say cuts will be made in nursing and for Dr's who work with the elderly. they always make the people who work so hard....nurses teachers and such work harder for little pay so that they have no hope of doing their job the best that they can.

posted by Kabu on August 1, 2011 at 4:09 PM | link to this | reply

God Bless you and bring you peace my friend.

posted by WileyJohn on August 1, 2011 at 1:09 PM | link to this | reply

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