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TAPS
Well, I knew it was coming. You always maintain such dignity, that you make an easy target. I was impressed that you chose not to jump in and join the fray.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 3:42 AM | link to this | reply

Avanto-garde
That's the first time that I've had a comment like that addrest to me. HAHAHA

posted by TAPS. on December 15, 2006 at 3:29 AM | link to this | reply

Mrs T
I bet it was confusing for you to witness. I'm sorry that you experienced this.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:46 AM | link to this | reply

faholo
Thanks. You're very kind.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:45 AM | link to this | reply

Cee
This site can offer insight and healing, were it to be taken with more gratitude. Thanks.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:45 AM | link to this | reply

Ciel
Absolutely. Practicing it is another matter entirely.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:43 AM | link to this | reply

sannhet
Exactly. Thanks.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:43 AM | link to this | reply

SYMPHONY
Well, it was confusing for me to watch, knowing what I knew.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:42 AM | link to this | reply

Tanga
You're right: it can.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:42 AM | link to this | reply

Bhaskar
Insightful comment. I felt a storm coming quickly as well. Let's hope that she's getting the help she needs.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:41 AM | link to this | reply

Whacky
Yes, it would be. Unfortunately, it's not very popular.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:40 AM | link to this | reply

TIMMY
It'd be nice to see her return, and move on. I'm not sure if she'd want to now.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:40 AM | link to this | reply

Azur
I was scanning the posts last evening, and saw where Passionflower was going at it with you. I'm not one to get involved, so I just let it go.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:39 AM | link to this | reply

bel
I wouldn't say that but I'm impressed and grateful that you feel that way. Thanks.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:37 AM | link to this | reply

Moon
You're right: there are no solutions. You just have to not be quick to react and stand your ground on certain things. Thanks for the insight.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:36 AM | link to this | reply

appleworks
I've often thought of trying my hand at chainsaw carving. I think it would be fun.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:35 AM | link to this | reply

Janes Opinion
Thanks so much.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:34 AM | link to this | reply

Holy Grail
I just think that people need to consider that she was not being her normal self here. Sad but true.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:33 AM | link to this | reply

TAPS
Good Lord! What happened?

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:32 AM | link to this | reply

TAPS
when it was not justified. I think your being a nurse was justification enough in her mind. She jumped on me a time or two over my story telling, as if I were being insensitive. Lord knows, I have been more than once. It's sad to see her spiral.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:31 AM | link to this | reply

TAPS
I saw you become a target when it was not

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:30 AM | link to this | reply

TAPS
I saw you become a target when it was

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:30 AM | link to this | reply

TAPS
I saw you become a target when

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:30 AM | link to this | reply

TAPS
I saw you become a target

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:30 AM | link to this | reply

TAPS
I saw you become a

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:30 AM | link to this | reply

TAPS
I saw you

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:30 AM | link to this | reply

TAPS
I saw

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:30 AM | link to this | reply

Nanaroo
Thanks!

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:29 AM | link to this | reply

mneme
Thanks.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:28 AM | link to this | reply

Justi
You are absolutely right. There is a lot of wounding with words, which is either completely denied or egged on by trying to bring the matter to light. Would that simple honesty would replace all the backbiting.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:28 AM | link to this | reply

Ariala
I wish sometimes that we would realize what's really going on, instead of making this place so damned important. Thanks for stopping in.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:26 AM | link to this | reply

blackcat
It is a tremendous thing to be shown our inner realm. Oftentimes, it takes an uncomfortable situation or relationship for it to reveal itself.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:25 AM | link to this | reply

scoop
I'm not sure that everyone knows how disruptive this disorder can be. Thanks.

posted by avant-garde on December 15, 2006 at 2:24 AM | link to this | reply

Personally I felt extremely confused. I only recently started reading &

commenting on Blanche's blog and we actually had a few pleasant conversations.  She always gave me such wonderful insightful comments and her posts were likeable.  I started to like her a lot.  When this whole thing started I was extremely confused because it was like two different people.  I couldn't believe that it was her and I even thought that maybe someone else got hold of her account and are making these nasty comments to get back at her or something.  I am extremely sad for her and hope that she will get some much needed help.  I am very sorry this whole thing happened.

Mrs T

posted by Tanga on December 15, 2006 at 1:08 AM | link to this | reply

Hi Avant, I have not had much time for Blogit this
week and will be working most of tomorrow and all day Saturday. I am so glad I hit your blog first tonight. Have been in Jasper with my brother today for the Nursing home's Christmas party. I deeply appreciate you writing about Blanche, just one more sign of your compassionate heart! I will just say, I know what MoonSpirit is talking about and am dealing with a similar situation on a regular basis. I am convinced this is one of the most confusing illnesses to cope with as a caregiver. Thank you and be assured Blanche and all of "us" are in my daily prayer! faholo

posted by faholo on December 14, 2006 at 7:08 PM | link to this | reply

avant-
"We should try to be less impatient with each other and allow our differences to be beneficial to our understanding." What a wise & kind man you are.  Tolerance comes about with honesty, heartfulness, forgiveness, education (not to be confused with preaching/proselyting), and the list could continue.  I learn something new about my "self" with every posting I read, whenever I can manage to do that. My goal is to leave something of myself with every blog or comment that I write.  It's an exchange of writing styles, social and political viewpoints, even the most personal and intimate exchanges are posted here. I will miss Blanche and I wish her nothing but good will all year long. 

Cee


posted by LadyCeeMarie on December 14, 2006 at 11:26 AM | link to this | reply

"We need love the most, when we deserve it the least..."

posted by Ciel on December 13, 2006 at 5:16 PM | link to this | reply

Avant -
Forgiveness is the key, no matter what happened. Good post!

posted by sannhet on December 13, 2006 at 8:53 AM | link to this | reply

I wish I had read this before I posted my own post....
I now understand.

posted by _Symphony_ on December 13, 2006 at 7:21 AM | link to this | reply

A little bit of patience and understanding can go a long way

posted by Tanga on December 13, 2006 at 1:14 AM | link to this | reply

Avant
Kudos for you writing so touchingly, and the lesson learnt therein. Personally I have liked her, as I am sure many amongst us did. A while back I gave her hints of her impending doom. Signs were evident, particularly in her being seized with a hypomanic desire for creativity and in seeking compliments, a most insidious aspect of the illness and manifested in her becoming a bully as also its victim. Off late she had started to grossly ignore (can’t blame her because of the illness) how her actions would result in severe social and moral problems. But the more worrying aspect is that the disorder involves great distress and disruption and is associated with a higher-than-average risk of suicide. Let us all wish her well.

posted by Bhaskar.ing on December 12, 2006 at 10:49 PM | link to this | reply

I don't really know what happened.

But I do know that forgiveness is the best thing for everyone.

posted by Whacky on December 12, 2006 at 8:42 PM | link to this | reply

avant
It may be that she has been suspended and not booted completely. I am sure that most if not all would give her an opportunity to apologize and then move on.

posted by TIMMYTALES on December 12, 2006 at 8:25 PM | link to this | reply

Avant you make an important point
that the comments made were not really about the people who received them.  This is the thing that struck me about the comments in recent days, they were nothing like normal comments from Blanche, as far removed as could be in tone, choice of language, spirit - everything. In fact I always found her to be one of the most generous of bloggers with her considered comments.

I had noticed a  subtle change in tone and content of Blanche's posts of late but I had no idea why. Your post has informed me and for that I thank you.


posted by Azur on December 12, 2006 at 8:18 PM | link to this | reply

Avant
You are truly one of the kindest people I have ever encountered in real life or online. 

posted by bel_1965 on December 12, 2006 at 6:57 PM | link to this | reply

Avant, I have a mentally ill parent. This parent was not just bi-polar, the parent (I'm obviously avoiding gender) was schizoprhenic/psychotic. In the ensuing (almost) 6 decades, I have been involved with a lot of mentally ill people. As a child, it was more than overwhelming; and affected me for life. I would like to think that on the positive side it has made me more compassionate. There are a lot of negatives that I carry as well. The experience has also taught me not to buy into "bullshit." There is no easy answer and no quick fix. In fact, there is (usually) no fix at all. MoonSpirit

posted by syzygy on December 12, 2006 at 6:55 PM | link to this | reply

avant

i can tell you all about bi polar.

i once said your early posts were frustrating because i believe certain conditions like bi polar are chemical imbalance. without certain experiences or if i were and felt great, i would have easily accepted what you say. in this sense it seems like a gift.

i knew nothing of any feuds on this site, i dont care.

i did use knife and chissel all day, woodworking and totally inspired, i have it. i think you would enjoy this work scott, you like building with your hands. i thought stone work was it. ma'at is looking good serpents and all. the fisherman and the whale, too.

posted by appleworks7 on December 12, 2006 at 5:12 PM | link to this | reply

Excellent commentary!

posted by JanesOpinion on December 12, 2006 at 5:06 PM | link to this | reply

This is the best post i've read about the "big Blogit war."

posted by Holy_Grail on December 12, 2006 at 4:50 PM | link to this | reply

Avant-garde, It is estimated that 1 in 83 people in the U.S.A. alone suffer from bipolar disorder. (approximately 3.3 million adults) That means that we need to have a lot of compassion, exhibit a lot of patience, keep informed, and pray a lot, be quick to forgive and be thankful for the good times.   If you have BAD, don't give up.  Great post.

posted by TAPS. on December 12, 2006 at 4:03 PM | link to this | reply

avant-garde
so very well said!

posted by Nanaroo on December 12, 2006 at 3:49 PM | link to this | reply

avant-garde
well said, and no quarrel from me.

posted by mneme on December 12, 2006 at 3:47 PM | link to this | reply

Avant gard
I apologize for taking so much space. I did go out and come back. LOL I got so carried away in what I wanted to say I did not tell you waht a wonderful post you wrote, I am sorry I did that. Thank you for all your sharing.

posted by Justi on December 12, 2006 at 3:46 PM | link to this | reply

Avant Gard
I had been the victim of this once and learned what she was going through and just did no response. You know another lesson for all of us to learn is that hers is magnified but others on here are as bad as she in their cuts and jabs at others. Theirs is not as accelerated but then they know exactly what they are doing, she does not. She will suffer terrible shame. She only has writing to fall back on. We have to forgive her and correct ourselves. The very first comment I received on Blogit was "People with opinions like your should not be allowed to breed." That person knew what he was saying. He only said it because he differed with me on religion. In my mind that is much worse than one who is ill at the time.

posted by Justi on December 12, 2006 at 3:44 PM | link to this | reply

oh... and also that you can't rationalize with someone when they're
being irrational.  Sounds simple, but it's not always obvious.

posted by -blackcat on December 12, 2006 at 3:38 PM | link to this | reply

Ditto to what Blackcat said. Good post.

posted by Ariala on December 12, 2006 at 3:35 PM | link to this | reply

I've personally learned a lot from her the past year.

She's taught me that I will not always be accepted, no matter how hard I try... and when that's the case, to just stop trying.  It hasn't been easy, but in the end I've learned not to let others affect me so much.  They don't determine what kind of person I am... but those that truly know me, know the truth.

It doesn't sound like a great lesson to learn, but in a way, it really is.

posted by -blackcat on December 12, 2006 at 3:32 PM | link to this | reply

This is a very good post

posted by scoop on December 12, 2006 at 2:07 PM | link to this | reply