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Hi Symph and FMW

Yes, I hate some of them, dislike others, and don't mind others. I don't really like any of 'em. The culture of monarchy in this country is not to be too close to the people, so i suppose it's hard for them to break away from their advisors when they've been born into it. Diana was an aristocrat but hadn't been brought up in the same rigid way.

 

FMW - Yes, fair comment. I have done a couple of Lewis Carroll-type sonnets before.

posted by Antonionioni on November 17, 2006 at 8:04 AM | link to this | reply

Tony - this was entertaining. For some reason I detected a slight
influence from Lewis Carrol

posted by FreeManWalking on November 17, 2006 at 7:37 AM | link to this | reply

I can't stand the Royal family....
the only one I ever liked was princess diana......I tell you what, she will be so proud of her boys!

posted by _Symphony_ on November 17, 2006 at 6:43 AM | link to this | reply

MC, I'll be in touch re the sonnet stuff.
About Michael Jackson, he calls one of his daughters 'Blanket'. I think it's cause he always used to cover his kids' heads whenever they went out in public!

posted by Antonionioni on November 17, 2006 at 5:52 AM | link to this | reply

Thanks for those great responses, everyone.
Well, Mneme, life is certainly more interesting with royals than without them, and for that reason anlone, I would retain them. Why expunge such colour from our lives. We don't admire them anymore, well most of them, we just follow their antics with amusement / amazement, etc. They are the number one 'celebs' in a celeb-obsessed world. As for Blair, i don't think he's been too bad, about similar to Clinton in America, well-meaning if not always effective, but he has been ruined by his farcical devotion to George Bush's every whim, even when one suspects that Blair doesn't actually agree, he goes along with it anyway, and that included an illegal and unjustifiable invasion of Iraq which for all their claims about the evils of Saddam, has cost vastly more lives than would have happened under Saddam, has increased Iran's regional power, with the Iranian-backed Shi-ite portion of Iraq's population now able to wield its muscle, with all the ongoing western soldiers' deaths, and the enormous expense being borne by western taxpayers despite their opposition to it. Bit of a rant there, but anyway, as regards life in GB, it's better I suppose if you like history and more variety in weather, i.e. 'barbie' weather only exists from June to September, if you're lucky, and even then, you can't rely on any particular day to be free of rain. But even in GB, they're always moaning that it doesn't rain ENOUGH. Goodness knows how Australia manages for water supply!

posted by Antonionioni on November 17, 2006 at 5:50 AM | link to this | reply

Tonyzonit,
very clever, and funny. At least with puppet queens no one gets their head chopped off. Not literally anyway, perhaps metaphorically.. I will be sorry to see Blair go but then I'm not living there (which is why my husband and I fight most often). 

posted by mneme on November 17, 2006 at 4:31 AM | link to this | reply

 On topics so morose  what one cannot give in p(o)rose, as in Absalom and Achitophel by Dryden, and his finest raillery is best seen in the picture of Zimri, Zimri's nature was so unstable that

                                          ......in the course of one revolving moon

                                        Was chemist, fiddler, statesman and buffoon

                                        Then all for women, painting, rhyming, drinking

                                        Besides ten thousand freaks that died in thinking 

posted by Bhaskar.ing on November 17, 2006 at 4:16 AM | link to this | reply

Tony... I think I am just about ready to do a sonnet... watch out!
I must have a go at it, what do you think??? Can you show me the ropes first. I could find out for myself if I could be bothered. Do you follow the rules strictly with scansion and strong accented syllables, sometimes people read them differently and accents do vary, it is not an exact science.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 17, 2006 at 2:36 AM | link to this | reply

yep the comments are becoming more in depth... it is good to see.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 17, 2006 at 2:23 AM | link to this | reply

I don't get this? you mean over his pasty white flour dusted face?

posted by marieclaire66 on November 17, 2006 at 2:04 AM | link to this | reply

No, MC, but Michael Jackson has!

posted by Antonionioni on November 17, 2006 at 1:28 AM | link to this | reply

It's getting chilly again, got a blanket?

posted by marieclaire66 on November 17, 2006 at 1:12 AM | link to this | reply

Very clever!! I look forward to more! --msugatinha

posted by msugatinha on November 16, 2006 at 10:46 PM | link to this | reply

by the way, we have our very own "royal" or regal candidate for the
presidency, Segolene Royal. She seems quite nice, but I am not there to vote.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 16, 2006 at 10:23 PM | link to this | reply

and .... people are also pulling the strings, faster may be, in any case, they are paying as you say, and all they can do is vote with their feet. You describe the queen in quite an endearing way, not so kind on old Tony, another Tony. Next, you might like to write about the "firm" and delve into the Monarchy's darkest secrets...just a thought. (I responded to your very interesting and challenging comment on my poem). It makes me wonder if people actually read my stuff properly, i bet some of them don't, sorry to say this...

posted by marieclaire66 on November 16, 2006 at 8:12 PM | link to this | reply

very clever, witty and funny.
quite a political satire, I think, i love the way you play the puppet strings, the queen's crown, wobbling. What a funny picture you depict! well done.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 16, 2006 at 8:08 PM | link to this | reply

Tony, I hear that Bair is doing a Rumsfeld, unresignation", They resigned
him.  Long live the Queen!

posted by Blanche. on November 16, 2006 at 8:02 PM | link to this | reply

Tony
I have to agree with smartdog.  Look at the US.  Funny work, made me laugh.

posted by Alivia on November 16, 2006 at 7:55 PM | link to this | reply

TonyZ
Seems there are always puppet masters; some we see, some we don't, none of them like to listen us 'common folk.'  Fun post.

Be well,

-smartdog

posted by smartdog_670 on November 16, 2006 at 7:35 PM | link to this | reply

I wonder if the old Queen was even sober when she read it?...
....you did have fun with it, Tonyz, and it rubbed off....

posted by Rumor on November 16, 2006 at 6:39 PM | link to this | reply

will comment later, got to go teach again...

posted by marieclaire66 on November 16, 2006 at 6:39 PM | link to this | reply

I've often wondered what the general public thought of the monarchy....
As an outsider looking in it seems a rather useless faction to me (beyond snipping ribbons, and making other dignitaries feel special).  Nice poke at the old girl....

posted by Troosha on November 16, 2006 at 4:33 PM | link to this | reply

Lesson in living history-how we treat Rulers/Royalty in parliamentary democ

Democracies! It is a good thing that Royal power is checked by the Constituional Monarchy in UK, right? But I had as much fun as u had in writing...because Blair is not the best that Labor tradition had to ogffer the world. The Brits and Americans do elect leaders for all the world, u know. Nowadays if UK sneezes, the third world catches a cold! shalom

posted by ILLUMINATI8 on November 16, 2006 at 4:06 PM | link to this | reply

Cigars are OK. Bill Clinton liked 'em, I believe.

posted by Antonionioni on November 16, 2006 at 3:09 PM | link to this | reply

Personally, I'm not looking forward to Brown.
If he walks in to the job as they all suggest, I don't think the voters will give him anything like Blair's margins of victory. He might even lose. And he can't even breathe properly. Never shuts his mouth.

posted by Antonionioni on November 16, 2006 at 3:08 PM | link to this | reply

It'd have to be cigars in this house. Nice ones. We don't smoke, you see.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on November 16, 2006 at 3:08 PM | link to this | reply

Just wined, not dined?
Ooh, that's the worst innit? Specially when fags are added.

posted by Antonionioni on November 16, 2006 at 3:07 PM | link to this | reply

Tony, what about Gordon?

The string-puller of the puppet-PM pulling the puppet-queen's strings.

A play within a play within a play. Politics can be interesting sometimes, particular when it runs so perfectly to a Shakespearean drama.

Great work, as ever. I am slightly wined this evening.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on November 16, 2006 at 3:01 PM | link to this | reply

anything you write so well

posted by star4sky5 on November 16, 2006 at 1:02 PM | link to this | reply