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You have to watch the other guys to go after them, food4thought. Know your
enemy. As for
Hannity and Colmes. I can handle Alan alright, most of the time. But as soon as that pompous windbag Hannity starts blustering and bullying his guests, I lose patience, curse the Limbaugh-spawn that he is, and turn the channel to something more intellectual, like
Rugrats.
posted by
saul_relative
on November 4, 2006 at 10:02 PM
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Saul...
I saw that interview, it was entertaining. Do you think Letterman wanting to call O'Rielly a bonehead was an obtuse reference to Bill's labeling people who disagree with him as pinheads? And how would David know that unless he really had seen the show? The thing about O'Rielly is "The No Spin Zone" is a big spin itself. I like Bill too, but ya gotta have your grains of salt handy. And I can't turn Hannity and Colmes off fast enought, they drive me crazy.
posted by
food4thought
on November 4, 2006 at 9:03 PM
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Yeah, Whacky, those two are the Abbott and Costello of the internet...
posted by
saul_relative
on October 31, 2006 at 9:37 PM
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Darn I missed that one.
I'll have to try to stay up later.
posted by
Whacky
on October 31, 2006 at 9:14 PM
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A very good distinction you make, Drew. I watch Fox News for its
entertainment value. For my news, I watch all the other networks and sift through it. O'Reilly is a bit of a blustering bully. However, I do like his take on a few things, just as I like a few of Glenn Beck's. But you are absolutely correct in that taken in totality, O'Reilly, and others like him, are dangerous.
posted by
saul_relative
on October 30, 2006 at 8:52 PM
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Bill O'Reily as entertainment, okay...
...Bill O as anything else, disturbing. The man is ridiculous without context. David Letterman is an entertainer without the pretense of serious information. Bill O slants the reality of many a gullible American, each of whom carries the right to vote. In any context outside of entertainment, Bill O is hazardous. He gets facts backwards, attempts to lie his way out of apologizing and has come to epitomize what America is to the rest of the world: Loud, greedy, uninformed and unyielding. Letterman is funny, O'Reily is a joke.
posted by
The_TAO_of_Drew
on October 30, 2006 at 9:56 AM
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Yes, they are. To their everlasting shame, Blanche.
posted by
saul_relative
on October 29, 2006 at 9:37 PM
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That's what bites, Saul, that the work of good people gets tarred by the
institution and the bad apples. Although it seems the church is more than a little dilatory in covering up priestly perversions.
posted by
Blanche.
on October 29, 2006 at 6:49 PM
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That they do, Blanche. Even with its constant touch-and-go with scandal,
the Church has and continues to do a lot of good things as well...
posted by
saul_relative
on October 29, 2006 at 6:44 PM
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Also, a very good point, Saul, I don't want to dismiss the good the
Catholic Church has done, they run huge charities.
posted by
Blanche.
on October 29, 2006 at 5:49 PM
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Very good point, Blanche. With all it's money and political clout, you'd
think more could have been and be done. Still, India is mostly Hindu and Muslim, so a blatant intrusive effort by the Catholic Church may not be an option.
posted by
saul_relative
on October 29, 2006 at 5:48 PM
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It's hard to explain, Ank, Saul, it's like the Gong Show buzzer, and yeah,
I don't even always cut Mother Theresa slack, because for all the good she did for the Catholic church, she was still participating in the Calcutta or Delhi slums, which the church might have been doing more to alleviate rather than just putting on more bandaids. My take.
posted by
Blanche.
on October 29, 2006 at 5:13 PM
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You are a hard one, ain't ya, Blanche. Maybe for Mother Theresa? LOL.
BTW, what is ank?
posted by
saul_relative
on October 29, 2006 at 5:10 PM
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Plausible, schmausible, Saul, it's cumulative. If Mother Theresa were
caught in a little pecadillo, I'd say maybe, but Bill? He is just not likeable. Ank.
posted by
Blanche.
on October 29, 2006 at 5:06 PM
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Ummm, Blanche, that is as close to a perfect line of logic as you're likely
to get without ruling out plausible deniability, that old annoying qualifier.
posted by
saul_relative
on October 29, 2006 at 5:04 PM
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I agree with some of O'Reilly's views, OFFBEATS, and have read one of
his books,
Who's Looking Out For You?, which I liked immensely.
posted by
saul_relative
on October 29, 2006 at 5:01 PM
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It always does, Saul, I don't care how many times the settling party will
write, this is not an admission of guilt, it looks guilty as hell. You don't fork out $7 million bucks or whatever the amount was, it was huge, for smoke and mirrors. She had tapes on him, that were obviously damning, and the key thing: He called her every name in the book, but he never said he didn't do it, so almost by default, he did it.
It's like GW Bush's response to the question, "Have you ever done cocaine?" , which was "I have not commmitted any felonies in 25 years.". Um, Mr. Bush, that's a YES.
posted by
Blanche.
on October 29, 2006 at 5:01 PM
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O'Reilly's settling out of court looks like guilt, Blanche. It may not be,
but it sure looks like it.
posted by
saul_relative
on October 29, 2006 at 4:57 PM
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Thanks, Pat B.
posted by
saul_relative
on October 29, 2006 at 4:55 PM
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I"m relieved to hear you say that, too, Offbeats, we've had too much fun
to let something like politics come between us.
posted by
Blanche.
on October 29, 2006 at 8:05 AM
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Blanche
I love ya all the time. Just because we have different views on things does not for one moment take away anything I believe about you personally. I know your a good woman, nothing will change that. I am just happy you and I are well past the point of letting politics and other issues get in the way of our friendship...
posted by
Offy
on October 29, 2006 at 7:57 AM
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Offbeats, well, at least you still love me in my journal, sigh.
posted by
Blanche.
on October 29, 2006 at 7:53 AM
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I love Bill and I like Dave. Bill is a good warrior for truth. Course some wouldn't know the truth if it bit them in the butt...Oh and buy the book, you'll love it~
posted by
Offy
on October 29, 2006 at 7:52 AM
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O'Reilly's desperate, he's going on other shows, Saul, ones where he does
not have the "gong" button, and screeners, to shield him. He made himself look like such an ass on the awards show where he told Al Franken that he personally had won a Peabody award, (which he had not), that I don't think he's left his own studio since.
I still love "felafel". He pays how many millions of dollars to settle a sexual harassment case out of court (w/o admitting guilt, yeah right), and his idea of a come-on line is "I want to felafel you"? instead of loofah, what is that? A new form of Middle Eastern cuisine?
posted by
Blanche.
on October 29, 2006 at 7:48 AM
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Oh, yeah!!!
what can I say - when you're right, you're right. :)
posted by
Pat_B
on October 29, 2006 at 7:32 AM
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