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posted by
Xeno-x
on June 8, 2006 at 6:36 PM
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Justi, I don't believe that it happens more than not.
It is too easy to generalize about these places. and therefore to whip up even more fear. Fear spreads faster than facts because it requires no research or verification. I think that you have locked onto a notion that has been perpetuated to feed the fear and justify some beliefs. People are so afraid that they believe even the simple things such as children kicking a ball are lost. That is fear talking not reality. Kids will kick balls and the World Cup will be watched in those troubled places. The unrest and politics are rotten in a handful of Middle Eastern countries and yet people far away would sum that up as the Middle East and all moslems as evil and agressive. How many young American men give up sports forever and settle down with a beer in front of the TV? Where do they put their agression?
posted by
Azur
on June 8, 2006 at 1:40 AM
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Azur
I must draw in lines. You don't find the suicide bombers from turkey either. I have taken too large a territory . Have you seen this innocence you are talking about in Palestine, Iran, Lebanon or Iraq before and after the war? Have you seen children having been taught to use arms, seen even women used as suicide bombers? Can you tell me this does not happen more than not?
posted by
Justi
on June 8, 2006 at 12:51 AM
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Justi, I have not yet been to Iraq or Israel.
I have visited only one country in the Middle East - Turkey but made 10 visits I have seen football and other sports being played. watched and promoted. I've seen children play on dusty school pitches and on the most recent three or four visits my young son played in football games against local Turks on an astroturf pitch. It was very hot and so they played the matches on a half-size astroturf pitch at midnight with about a million insects flying under the lights.
posted by
Azur
on June 7, 2006 at 10:48 PM
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Azure
Yes I know that. I am talking about the average school child isn't privy to this sort of playing. Also have you visited the Middle East? Do you see promotions of the athletes? Do you see posters of the faces of children who have died by having been given to become a bomber? Then too maybe you remember the last Olympic games in Germany when all the Jewish athletes were killed by teorrists from Middle East? Or are you trying to tell me it is simply Ozzie and Harriet with different names.
posted by
Justi
on June 7, 2006 at 6:35 PM
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Justi, the world cup players are athletes like from anywhere else
Kids play football everywhere in the world, be it on a pitch on in a league or with makeshift goal posts and anything that resembles a ball.
posted by
Azur
on June 7, 2006 at 3:37 PM
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Azur
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I did know that. These are state controled groupes are they not not children at random schools simply playing can you tell me whether this is true?
posted by
Justi
on June 7, 2006 at 3:23 PM
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Justi, look at the World Cup Football (soccer) draw - Iran, Saudi Arabia
have both qualified to play in the finals in Germany. Iraq made some progress in the qualifiers. You will find kids kicking balls
everywhere in the world.
posted by
Azur
on June 7, 2006 at 3:18 PM
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Blck Cat
That is precisley the point they do not want them to get rid of their aggressions.
posted by
Justi
on June 7, 2006 at 3:12 PM
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MY GOD YOU ARE ALL FOOLS!!!!
I had a truce with Justi once -- but this is ridiculous
and all your biased and hypocritical rantings have to be the work of depraved minds!!!!
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 7, 2006 at 3:06 PM
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I normally don't comment on politics.... but in this case I saw a point
to be made. I think you had a good idea up there in the first paragraph. Why are there no sports in the Middle East? This could be part of the problem. Thousands of young men with nothing to take out their aggression....
posted by
-blackcat
on June 7, 2006 at 3:05 PM
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We've got family visiting right now, so busy, busy days!! It's bedtime for old dudes.
Thank you all for your the priceless gift of your friendship.
posted by
ariel70
on June 7, 2006 at 3:04 PM
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Ariel
Thank you so much for your good words. Yes I believe you know how they work. Yet I know it is a war between two worlds. I am sure of it. I am only saying that I would not be able to discuss this without the one fact that all this hinges on. There is a real God and a real Satan. My voice of doubt was not meant as a bad mark of any sort against you. Objectivity in discussing this can not occur without the presence of a real God.
posted by
Justi
on June 7, 2006 at 2:58 PM
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Justi again
Sorry, I neglected to express my genuine and heartfelt sorrow for your losses.
Please accept it now
posted by
ariel70
on June 7, 2006 at 2:54 PM
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Justi
I'm surprised that you should doubt my objectivity.
Yours is precisely the point that I was making : that it is muderous fanatics who are perverting Islam for their own person and political ends. And slaughtering innocent children in the process
posted by
ariel70
on June 7, 2006 at 2:52 PM
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Ariel
Ariel I have seen their faces. Look at the faces of their parents. What has happened there? Why do the mothers offer them up for death? I do not believe you will be objective in a dialog about the differences in the Gods you mention. I respect you and your opinions. I do know the fate that befalls my children. I have already lost two of my three to death! Yet I believe in eternal life. Not one of my children would have lifted a hand to take the lives of others. Islam in and on any level is pro taking the lives of non-believers of Islam. I have been a student of many religions for some time. The God I worship created those tiny innocent faces you speak of and the God of Islam has distorted them into killing machines.
posted by
Justi
on June 7, 2006 at 2:48 PM
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Justi et al
I trust you'll fogive me the liberty of posting this, which I've just posted as a comment in another blog ...
Look at the eager, trusting faces of those beautiful, innocent Muslim children at prayer at the foot of my article on Muslim fundamentalism in the August edition of this magazine.
Look at their faces : and wonder to which god they pray. Do they pray to the just and merciful Allah : or the unjust and merciless god of fundamentalist Islam ; that cruel god of destruction, and slaughter of the innocent?
Look at their faces : and wonder what virulent and unreasoning hatred against your children is being inculcated in their receptive minds.
Look at their faces : and consider that in due time it will be they, or youngsters like them, whose bodies will be shredded by the suicide bombs buckled about them. Look at their faces : and wonder if one day they will visit your town.
Look at their faces : and rage at what is done in the name of Islam. Look at their faces : and dare to call me racist for condemning the evil perversion of Muslim children’s minds.
Look at their faces : and weep for what one day may come to them. Look at their faces : and weep for what one day may come to your children.
© Terry Flower 2004
posted by
ariel70
on June 7, 2006 at 2:40 PM
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I'm afraid Americans are in for some rude awakenings in the next few years.
I hope we're prepared but I know in my heart, we aren't!
posted by
Passionflower
on June 7, 2006 at 2:35 PM
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you aren't christian
you operate from hearsay and innuendo and bias against Moslems
posted by
Xeno-x
on June 7, 2006 at 2:16 PM
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Kingmi
Of course you may. We need to get the word out. People are just playing like all is well except America!
posted by
Justi
on June 7, 2006 at 2:11 PM
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Justi, Can I use this please? You have hit the nail on the head!
If you want to know how bad it is to have mobs of Muslims come into your towns, cities and even homes ask France, Belgium, Holland and soon to be Britain and Canada. Of course the United States is the kingpin of their desired target but we will be able to hold them off until 2008. What happens after that will be totally up to the voting public. Under leftist rule America will be the new Hell Ground of Celebrity Bombers!
--justi
posted by
kingmi
on June 7, 2006 at 1:54 PM
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