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I so like this insight
posted by
Straightforward
on January 4, 2014 at 6:49 AM
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Re: TS,
Thanks for sharing about your life and the sense of commitment you feel towards your personal path towards, and connection with the Divine.
There are many doors, and many helpers who will hold those doors open, inviting us to choose.
Personally, I believe your sexuality is between you and the Divine and is no one else's business. Personally, I believe that God cares more about the fact that you love, than who you love. Souls don't have gender: that is entirely a body thing, and a mental/emotional thing. Anyone who says different does not understand the nature of the soul.
Personally, I believe in cutting out as many layers of interpretation and translation and definition as possible, between myself and the Divine. It is enough that It is, and I am, and the rest I will understand later. All those filters and also the filters of our fears and hungers and expectations, etc, only confuse the matter. Imagine putting a dozen screens on your window, between you and the sunlight of a beautiful day!
The key, I believe, is in distinguishing what we are from what we have. When we do that, we elevate our consciousness from that of the body to that of spirit. I've written about this before, here. Thank you for this conversation that reminds me of it, myself!
posted by
Ciel
on December 29, 2013 at 7:43 PM
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in 1990 i was deeply involved in the gay/lesbian lifestyle in the los angeles area. i was a miserable christian because my faith and belief system would not allow me to be content and happy. i shared this with a former prof in a letter and she sent me a copy of the hound of heaven by francis thompson. on it she simply wrote. "just say yes to God." that marked my way out of a very dark time in my life and though i would like to say that i have no more feelings of same sex attraction i did have the good fortune of going thru a christian, spirit filled change group with desert stream ministries in culver city, california a suberb of l.a. the founder of that ministry, andy comiskey taught us about worshipping God in our songs and about our sexuality and what happened and why we were the way we were and we broke off into small groups and discussed our lives and prayed for one another. it was a struggle and i quit the group when i said i am gay and that is just the way i am. but one night a few weeks later i was led to go back to the meeting (it was a 30 week program called living waters) and they were talking about sexual abuse of which i'd been a victim as a child. many of us in the room began weeping uncontrollably. the Spirit of God had come down to meet us where we were at that night and much, much Spirit filled and led prayer and intercession went into making that happen. God has honored Andy Comsiskey and the desert stream teams of staff and volunteers. i remember one night as i was leaving the church he held the door open for me and because of this and the fact that he constantly talked about the cross of christ and him crucified i knew because of the apostle pauls boast that he knew nothing but the cross of Christ i knew that this man and his team were the keepers of an unquencable flame. your post reminded me of Comiskey's holding the door open for me who incidentally he had himself practiced homosexuality before deciding to lay that down and walk upright in a straight relationship. it's not for everyone but only to those who have ears to hear. i have not been in any gay relationship since 1990 though i did fall into one for a short time about five years ago to both mine and her great peril. thank God there is power in the blood of Christ to forgive and renew. i like what kabu said in her comment about her boys bringing her breakfast in bed. it was comiskey holding a door open for me that began to soften my heart toward him and to begin to let go of my distrust and suspicions.
posted by
Carolyn_Moe
on December 29, 2013 at 6:31 PM
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Re: Re: Kabu,
posted by
Kabu
on December 24, 2013 at 9:09 PM
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Re: Re: Kabu,
yes of course darling...
posted by
Kabu
on December 23, 2013 at 6:46 PM
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Interesting post and interesting comments. 
posted by
TAPS.
on December 23, 2013 at 5:26 PM
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Re: Kabu,
It wasn't the breakfast that was the gift... but what you remember!
posted by
Ciel
on December 23, 2013 at 5:03 PM
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Re: FormerStudentIntern.
Yes, whether we want them to, or not! 
posted by
Ciel
on December 23, 2013 at 5:02 PM
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Re: Naut,
There are things we can only understand by not reducing them to words and linear thought. We may need words to convey that understanding to others, but not to understand, ourselves. Really understanding something comes through knowing it intellectually and emotionally: using both sides of the brain.
posted by
Ciel
on December 23, 2013 at 5:01 PM
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I know when my little boys would bring me in stange flavoured coffee and burnt toast for my Mothers day Breakfast in bed it was more precious than anything else. funny, i don't remember any gifts but I do remember the work and whispering pride and love that went into those breakfasts.
posted by
Kabu
on December 23, 2013 at 4:26 PM
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Ciel
An interesting post. And yes, 'things' are stronger than words, but we understand them only through thought and language...I am reminded of Heidegger's book What is a Thing? And then, of course, there is Wittgenstein's very last sentence in the Tractatus: "What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence."
posted by
Nautikos
on December 23, 2013 at 4:15 PM
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Reading this entry reminds me that actions speak louder than words.
posted by
FormerStudentIntern
on December 23, 2013 at 10:44 AM
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