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Katray2

For myself I look at Israel and the West Bank politically and geographically today. I wish them a peaceful course in this historic situation. Your mixed view reconciles my personal tradition with this issue of foreign policy love. BC-A, Bill’s R®st

posted by BC-A on March 27, 2012 at 10:38 PM | link to this | reply

Re: I don't see embarrassment, Jay..

or a logical reason why the Palestinians continue to be stateless based on what Israel calls the area.

from Wikipedia:

Judea and Samaria are the biblical names of the territory roughly corresponding to an area now usually referred to as the West Bank. Samaria and Judea roughly corresponds to the territory of the ancient Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, also known as the Northern and the Southern Kingdoms. The name "West Bank" was proposed by the Jordanian authorities to describe the area west of the Jordan River.

 

posted by Katray2 on March 27, 2012 at 7:11 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Katray2

I'm sorry that happened to you, WileyFriend as I know you have a good, caring soul. I just feel things like we all do about right and wrong and have been researching in depth for awhile in an attempt to offer a balance that is coherent and un-biased. Thank you for reading and commenting.

posted by Katray2 on March 27, 2012 at 6:51 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Trouble is, Humans are a quarrelsome hoard and suspicious to the point of

Maybe at least a cessation in the killing of innocents, I hope, Dear Kabu. Sadly, I do think you are correct. Thank you for the thoughtful comment..

posted by Katray2 on March 27, 2012 at 6:43 PM | link to this | reply

I just thought you would like to know why they call it the West Bank, the West Bank, because if they called it by it's real name, Judea, to many people would ask too many questions that would become embarrassing to their situation.

posted by UtahJay on March 27, 2012 at 5:24 PM | link to this | reply

Katray2

You write so knowledgeably about situations I'm not certain if I should respond. However, I have to let 'gomedome's' response for me, do the trick,it is precisely how I feel. One time I did make a response to such a subject in another person's blog and I was accused one way or another of being antisemitic, stupid, etc. just as 'gomedome' says in his remark happens.

posted by WileyJohn on March 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM | link to this | reply

Trouble is, Humans are a quarrelsome hoard and suspicious to the point of

being capable of evil deeds to any one different to themselves. Colour, eye shape, beliefs...I don't think that there will ever be harmony between people.

posted by Kabu on March 27, 2012 at 5:08 PM | link to this | reply

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Thank you, Sam..

posted by Katray2 on March 27, 2012 at 11:11 AM | link to this | reply

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I think it will be, FSI. Glad you found the article interesting.

posted by Katray2 on March 27, 2012 at 11:10 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Katray2 - points my by Peter Beinart and others are the basis of my inquiry

Good question, Gomedome; should cut to the chase. There is nothing antisemitic about wanting peace and security for all inhabitants of Israel and Palestine; that is an accusation intended to deflect from the realities of the situation and to denigrate those who dare challenge the status quo.

posted by Katray2 on March 27, 2012 at 11:10 AM | link to this | reply

Needless to say it is a most sensitive subject! I have no answers but my faith is one of tolerance and I try to live my life that way! sam 

posted by sam444 on March 27, 2012 at 10:18 AM | link to this | reply

A very interesting read and I imagine the book is interesting as well.

posted by FormerStudentIntern on March 27, 2012 at 9:14 AM | link to this | reply

Katray2 - points my by Peter Beinart and others are the basis of my inquiry

It is safe to say that any similar application for statehood made to the UN security council by any other group of historical residents to any other region in the world would be accepted immediately. I have never heard a viable argument as to why approximately 3 million Palestinians have been treated so inappropriately for so long in terms of their statehood aspirations.

All I have been offered as explanation is propaganda, emotional diatribes and religious claptrap, the two latter fostered by that same propaganda. The number of times I have posed the "why not" question, it has been met with accusations of antisemitism and further elaboration upon the same old tired propaganda. I have found that answers offered by pro-Israeli Christians residing in other parts of the world to be next to useless so I am now taking a different approach.

To any Jewish person out there I ask this: There are approximately 3 million residents of the same region you claim as your own who can offer the same historical residency claims that is one of the important basis of your claim to the region. Why are they not entitled to statehood as you feel you are?  . . .

posted by gomedome on March 27, 2012 at 8:18 AM | link to this | reply

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