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Such history! I love green in nature, I would be right at home! sam

posted by sam444 on July 25, 2010 at 7:04 PM | link to this | reply

a post from the heart and I really enjoyed reading it...and the comments

fro Guy and Elyse too. I am Australian of course so things were different where I grew up but I was innocent and sheltered by my parents and knew nothing really of prejudice of race ot Colour....yet I did...because I was a farmers daughter and our closeby town was a port town where the men either worked for our Father's, were fishermen or worked for the Port....heavy back breaking work with hessian bags of grain. I 'knew" their children weren't of the same social standing as what "I" was.

I believe it is a terrible part of being human......tribal...or a pack mentallity....looking after one's own kind ...I just don't know......allI know is that I care for people and for allof God's creatures.....well maybe not a spider.

posted by Kabu on July 25, 2010 at 6:39 PM | link to this | reply

a post from the heart and I really enjoyed reading it...and the comments

fro Guy and Elyse too. I am Australian of course so things were different where I grew up but I was innocent and sheltered by my parents and knew nothing really of prejudice of race ot Colour....yet I did...because I was a farmers daughter and our closeby town was a port town where the men either worked for our Father's, were fishermen or worked for the Port....heavy back breaking work with hessian bags of grain. I 'knew" their children weren't of the same social standing as what "I" was.

I believe it is a terrible part of being human......tribal...or a pack mentallity....looking after one's own kind ...I just don't know......allI know is that I care for people and for allof God's creatures.....well maybe not a spider.

posted by Kabu on July 25, 2010 at 6:39 PM | link to this | reply

I enjoyed that so much.  Even though I grew up in MO, there are many similarities to what you describe here.  Lots of memories.

posted by TAPS. on July 25, 2010 at 6:34 PM | link to this | reply

We are close to being contemporaries. I too, was raised ALMOST color-blind!
Kristles,
       I was raised by my parents, who grew to adulthood in Flint, Michigan, an AC Delco, General Motors Inc. (Read that BUICK) factory town, with mostly segregated, but mixed while at work, white/black population. My parents were careful and successful at not being transparent around us kids about prejudice, preferring to raise their children to not have pre-conceived ideas, regarding racial matters. To their credit, they looked forward to the day that their children and those of other races, might all live in harmony, without the prejudice that they could see in their every day lives, but we kids never could never be troubled with such ugliness. We were sheltered from such things.
    For my parents however, such thoughts of racial equality were most likely impossible, however well-hidden. Only after becoming grown up, did my siblings and I come to realize that our parents, like their contemporaries also distrusted people of different cultures and races, most likely reflecting the opinions of those who had raised them.
     It isn't hard for me to understand these feelings of hatred, since I have trouble thinking of the German and the Japanese, the North Koreans, the Chinese and the Russian people, to be much more than naturally coarse, sub-normal, murderous barbarians, and I was born roughly two months after World War II had ended. The first war that I can remember clearly, was the Korean conflict, and I tried to join the Viet Nam NON-War in '65, because I was young, (19) stupid and gullible. I have real trouble thinking of most Muslims without wondering if they are plotting the destruction of my whole way of life, planning to stab me in the back, while smiling to my face. I KNOW that the muslim religion is fundamentally a peaceful one! I WISH that my suspicious assumptions about Muslims, were not a fact, and I strongly resist such thoughts.
    How many more generations will we have to live through, hating how we feel, and hoping that our next generation will defeat this apparently inborn, fearful hatred of the fundamentally DIFFERENT?
     When I lived in Ann Arbor, Michigan I lived and worked with, was close friends with, many of those who were of different colors, cultures, sexual orientations and religions, comfortably and without fear of the  fundamentally different. Why do these feelings of human solidarity ever become suspicious distrust? I hate what has happened to the world in my lifetime, but I do not see any answers.
          Guy

posted by northsage_45 on July 25, 2010 at 5:28 PM | link to this | reply

Thank you Kris ~
What a great history and quaintness you share...for those lazy - wonderful - innocent and just plain homegrown days again eh?.  Oh yes, I've known of one or maybe two stories such as Suba - but as you, I choose not to remember much - only with respect...and your recount here is tantalizing - makes my mouth water for the 'green' of Elysian Fields and those pot luck dinners and gatherings...that's home.  I am honored you did and shared a re-post ~  Elyse (and Troup?  do you still have that farmland there?)

posted by elysianfields on July 25, 2010 at 2:27 PM | link to this | reply