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Re: KOOKA ARE YOU SERIOUSLY THIS IGNORANT???

WHEN YOU STATED "we do see homosexual activity in animals other than man" ANIMALS OTHER THAN MAN??? NEWFLASH (READ THIS SLOWLY) MAN ARE NOT ANY TYPE OF ANIMALS. YOU MAY CLAIM TO BE SOME SORT OF OFFSPRING OF AN APE, HOWEVER, SPEAK FOR YOURSELF!

THERE IS PROOF THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG. AND YOU STILL REFUSE TO ANSWER MY QUESTION (OH WISE YOTA). SO ILL REPEAT MYSELF YET AGAIN. WHY WOULD GOD DESTROY SODOM AND GOMORRAH AND EVERY HOMOSEXUAL IN IT, IF HE CONDONED IT??? ALSO YOU REFUSED TO READ ROMANS CHAPTER 1. SO YOU WANT PROOF, AND I GIVE YOU REFERENCE TO IT, AND YOU DO NOT WANT TO READ IT. PERHAPS YOU ARE AFRAID YOU'LL FIND THAT YOU ARE AGAIN COMPLETLY WRONG ON SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS.

AND THE LORD TEACHES ME CONCERNING THE BIBLE, I SAID(AGAIN I'LL REPEAT MYSELF BECAUSE YOU NEVER GET WHAT IM SAYING THE FIRST 5 TIMES I SAY IT) I STATED THAT I WAS BLESSED TO HAVE A CHURCH THAT ACTUALLY TEACHES THE BIBLE THE WAY IT SHOULD BE TAUGHT. ILL DRAW YOU A PICTURE...WHEN THE PASTOR OF A CHURCH IS INFACT CALLED BY GOD TO PREACH, THAT PREACHER WILL PREACH FROM THE BIBLE AS IT IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED TO HIM BY THE HOLY SPIRT, AND THE CHURCH MEMBERS WHO SIT UNDER THE ANOINTED PREACHING OF THE WORD OF GOD, ARE INFACT BEING TAUGHT BY THE HOLY SPIRT BY USING THE ANOINTED MAN OF GOD TO DO IT. AND THEN WHEN A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN SAVED AKA- A CHRISTIAN, STUDIES THE WORD OF GOD THEMSELVES, THEY TOO WILL BE TAUGHT BY THE HOLY SPIRT WHAT THE SCRIPTURE MEANS. THEREFORE THE BODY OF CHRIST AT THAT CHURCH ARE ALL IN ONE MIND, AND ONE ACCORD, AND ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL BEING TAUGHT BY THE HOLY SPIRT. I HOPE YOU CAN GRASP THIS ONE.

BECAUSE I SAID THAT I CAN SPIRITUALY DISCERN THE BIBLE BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN SAVED AND YOU CAN NOT INFACT UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE BECAUSE YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOT BEEN SAVED DOES NOT MAKE ME AN UN-HUMBLE PERSON. IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE GRACE AND THE MERCIES OF GOD WHO SAVED ME FROM MYSELF, I TOO COULD HAVE ENDED UP LIKE YOU. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND ME IS THIS: I, THROUGH FAITH, ACCEPTED THE LORD AS MY PERSONAL SAVIOUR AND WAS SAVED BY GRACE. I MADE A CHOICE TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH. THE HOLY SPIRIT CONVICTED ME WITH CORDS OF LOVE, AND I REALIZED WHAT A MISERABLE AND HOPLESS NOTHING I WAS, AND I FELL DOWN ON MY FACE AT AN OLD FASHIONED ALTAR IN A LITTLE COUNTRY CHURCH, AND I BEGGED THE LORD TO SAVE ME AND FORGIVE ME OF MY SINS. AND HE DID BECAUSE I BELIEVED, I TRUSTED. I DID NOT NEED TO RUN OFF TO A COMPTER SCREEN SOME WHERE AND GOOGLE THE WORD "CONVICTION" TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON INSIDE OF ME. MY HEART WAS POUNDING, I FELT MISERABLE, AND I KNEW I NEEDED A SAVIOUR. YOU ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU HAVE HEARD THE TRUTH, YET YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT IT. THEREFORE, YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SAVED, YOU HAVE NOT ASK FOR FORGIVNESS OF ANYTHING, BECAUSE YOU FEEL YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING. AND ARE TO FULL OF PRIDE TO BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE (MEANING GOD) COULD ACTUALLY CAST YOU INTO AN ETERNAL LAKE OF FIRE. YOU CAN'T ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THERE IS A GOD THAT IS IN CONTROL OF EVERYTHING INCLUDING YOU. THE ONLY REASON YOU ARE BREATHING AT THIS MOMENT IS BECAUSE JESUS IS LONGSUFFERING AND MERCIFUL. IF HE WERE NOT SO FULL OF MERCY, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE HAD YOUR PROOF ABOUT HELL A LONG, LONG, TIME AGO. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE GOING IF YOU DO NOT TURN FROM YOUR WICKEDNESS AND ACCEPT THE LORD. SO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE ON THE ROAD YOU ARE ON RIGHT NOW, AND YOU WILL HAVE ALL THE PROOF YOU NEED.

I TOLD YOU THERE WERE NO LINKS REGARDING THE DYING ATHEIST. THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY SICK THING TO STAND THERE RECORDING ON VIDEO SOMEONE DYING AND THEN PUT IT ON THE INTERNET. ONLY SOMEONE WITH A SICK MIND SUCH AS YOURS WOULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING AS RIDICULOUS AS THAT. I HAVE YET TO SEE SOMEONE ON THEIR DEATH BED ON UTUBE. YOU ARE SICK. AND AS I SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH, YOU HAVE YET TO DO THAT, SO I'M NOT SUPRISED.

WHEN THE SAINTS ARRIVE IN HEAVEN, "ALL TEARS WILL BE WIPED FROM THEIR EYES" "THERE WILL BE NO REMEMBEANCE TO THE FORMER THINGS FOR THEY ARE PASSED AWAY" ALLOW ME TO DRAW YET ANOTHER PICTURE FOR YOU: A CHILD WHO IS NOT BORN WILL NEVER BE MISSED, AGREE? YOU SAID YOU AND YOUR WIFE ARE UNABLE TO HAVE ANYMORE CHILDREN, DO YOU MISS THOSE CHILDREN SHE HAS NOT HAD? OF COURSE YOU DONT. THE SAME GOES FOR THE FOR THE CHILDREN OF GOD. BEING 'BORN AGAIN" MEANS TO BE BORN OF THE SPIRT, AND UNLESS YOU ARE INFACT BORN AGAIN, YOU'LL IN NO WISE ENTER IN TO HEAVEN. SO, IF YOU ARE A SINNER(SOMEONE WHO'S NOT BEEN BORN AGAIN)THEN YOU ARE LIKE THE CHILD WHO WAS NEVER BORN. THE SPIRIT'S OF THE SAINTS WILL BE IN HEAVEN, THE FLESHLY PART OF THEM WILL BE DEAD, AND WILL TURN BACK TO DUST. THE SPIRIT IN A MAN IS EITHER BORN AGAIN, OR IT'S NOT. SO ONCE THE FAMILY OF GOD HAS GATHERED IN HEAVEN THERE IS NO REMBERENCE OF THE "UN-BORN" CHILD. THERE IS A GREAT GULF FIXED BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL. AND THERE WILL BE NO NEED OF ANYTHING BECAUSE GOD HAS ALREADY PROVIDED EVERYTHING, AND PERFECTED IT.

YOU WANT CONCRETE PROOF AGAIN. PROOF OF HELL. WELL SINCE AS OF RIGHT NOW THAT IS WHERE YOUR ETERNAL HOME WILL BE, I WOULD EXPECT YOU WOULD KNOW WHERE IT IS. YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR EARTHLY HOME IS DON'T YOU? YOU SHOULD ALSO BE AWARE OF YOUR ETERNAL ONE. THERES ONLY 2. HEAVEN OR HELL. AND YOU WILL SOON HAVE A RUDE AWAKENING IF YOU DONT CHANGE. THAT PRIDEFUL STIFF KNEE OF YOURS IS GOING TO BOW TO AN ALMIGHT GOD SOME DAY. AND THAT VILE TOUNGUE OF YOURS IS GOING TO CONFELL THAT HE IS GOD. AND YOU WILL WISH YOU COULD DIE, BUT DEATH WILL FLEE FROM YOU. YOUR GONNA BURN, AND FALL, AND BE IN MANY TORMENTS THERE. YOU'LL BE IN OUTER DARKNESS FOREVER AND FOREVER. AND YOU WILL BE REGRETING FOREVER THAT YOU REJECTED GOD. AND I HOPE YOU REMEMBER EVERY WORD OF THIS WHEN YOU GET THERE. YOU'LL BE BEGGING FOR ANOTHER CHANCE, BUT YOU'LL FIND NO GOD IN HELL. YOU'LL BE SCREAMING FOR MERCY WITH THE REST OF THE ATHEIST DOWN THERE,(WHO BY THE WAY, WON'T BE ATHEIST ANYMORE). AND IT WILL IN NO WAY BE BORING AS YOU STATED YOU THINK HEAVEN WILL BE. YEAH, YOU'LL DEFINITY NOT BE BORED IN HELL. YOU'LL BE TO BUSY GNASHING YOUR TEETH BECAUSE OF THE PAIN, AND CHEWING YOUR OWN FLESH, BUT IT WONT STOP, "THE WORM(BEING YOU)DIETH NOT."

I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED TO YOU THE MEANING OF THE EXODUS SCRIPTURE, AND ILL NOT WASTE MY TIME REPEATING IT AGAIN. YOU SAID YOU DONT KNOW HOW I COME UP WITH IT, AND THE REASON YOU DON'T KNOW HOW I EXPLAIN IT, IS BECAUSE MY DISCERNMENT COMES FROM THE LORD, AND SINCE YOU DONT KNOW HIM, YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND. EVEN IF YOU WENT BACK AND RE-READ IT S-L-O-W-L-Y, YOU STILL WOULDN'T GET IT.YOU GO AHEAD, (YOU AND YOUR WIFE)AND STAY AT HOME-HAVE FUN WITH THAT, THE PAY DAY IS COMING.

AND THE SCRIPTURE YOU BELIEVE TO BE SO IDIOTIC WONT SEEM THAT WAY WHEN YOUR ON FIRE IN HELL. YOU'LL THEN BE AGREEING WITH THE BIBLE, BUT AT THAT TIME IT WILL DO YOU NO GOOD.

I DO NOT NEED SIGNS AND WONDERS AND FIREWORKS OR GOOGLE OR LABORATORY SPECIMENS TO BELIEVE THE BIBLE IS TRUE. GRACE AND MERCY ARE NOT IN A BOTTLE ON A SHELF SOMEWHERE WAITING TO BE TESTED. A PERSON IS SAVED BY "GRACE THROUGH FAITH, AND NOT OF WORKS, OR YOURSELVES, LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST". AND THAT IS PROOF IN ITSELF.

MY REFERENCE TO THE VERSE THAT SAYS "I MUST DECREASE AND HE MUST INCREASE" IS A VERY HUMBLE ONE, AND YOU STATED THAT WAY OF LIFE IS A BAD THING. OF COURSE YOU YOURSELF WOULD NOT WANT BE BELOW A HOLY GOD, YOUR TO STIFF NECKED AND PRIDFUL. "PRIDE COMES BEFOR THE FALL," AND A NEVER ENDING BOTTOMLESS PIT WILL BE A LONG FALL FOR YOU. I DO NOT CHOOSE "BITS AND PIECES" OF THE BIBLE, "FOR IT IS ALL GOOD FOR DOCTRINE" NOT JUST "BITS AND PIECES."

THE WAY TO FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF THAT HELL TRUELY EXIST KOOKA, IS TO GO THERE YOURSELF, AND YOU ARE WELL ON YOUR WAY THERE. THERE IS NO WINDOW TO LOOK THROUGH. SO JUST KEEP ON THE WAY YOU ARE, AND YOU'LL HAVE YOUR PROOF.

 

YOU SAY "EVOLUTIONIST HAVE 'SOUND THEORIES'-DID YOU READ WHAT YOU WERE TYPING??? "THEORIES" READ IT SLOWLY. THEN LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF THAT WORD. YOU STATED"THE THEORIES HAVE NOT BE DIS-PROVEN" GUESS WHAT GENIUS? THAT IS WHY THEY ARE CALLED THEORIES, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PROVEN. WOW, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL EVER MAKE IT TO "YOTA STATUS" OR "JEDI WARRIOR" OR WHATEVER IT WAS YOUR DREAM OCCUPATION WAS ON YOUR "ABOUT ME" PAGE.

 

BY THE WAY, I KNOW WHAT THE "BIG BANG 'THEORY' " IS AS WELL AS "EVOLUTION". YOU STATED THAT "SCIENCE IS ALWAYS CHANGING" YEAH, CHANGING THEIR MINDS. BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A CLUE. THEY WON'T FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

posted by onwingsoflove on April 14, 2009 at 6:45 PM | link to this | reply

Wings, do you even try to understand a thing I say to you?

It really does seem like you have your hands over your ears (or eyes since this is written) and are doing all you can to not listen to me.

I used the verse ‘Be fruitful and Multiply’ to make a point about hoe fertility symbols are not bad, since you seemed to have a problem with them (The egg and the rabbit). I never once out any unwarranted importance on the issue.  You must have fully misunderstood what I was saying there to believe otherwise. Which then makes your point all the more invalid if you really don’t believe in that.

If the only reason you are against homosexuality is because the Bible claims that God is against it, well then there is no point at all in continuing any discussion on the issue with you.  You are not going to listen to reasoning and you will not present anything of value that can really show homosexuality to be wrong. We already know for  FACT that homosexuality is part of nature since we do see homosexual activity in animals other than man.  You’ve made it very clear you do not care about facts, evidence, reason of logic.  All that maters to you is the Bible, at which point as far as I am concerned you have NOTHING of true validity to defend your arguments with.  The Bible is find for faith based reasoning, but lacks what is needed to prove any real points.  All you can say is that you see homosexuality as a sin, but you CANNOT prove that there is anything truly wrong with it.

If your church actually taught you the Bible, then you would understand it at least as well as I do.  You don’t so it would seem that you are not being taught the Bible as well as you have been led to believe.

I don’t need to read specific chapter of the Bible to know that it is all meaningless to me.  I study it as an influential piece of fiction that ahs far too much hold over our world.  The rules of Romans are not going to mean a thing to me and prove nothing more than what someone decided to claim that God said.

Then of course you go off into one of the most telling of idea that believers cling to. I won’t push what word you used and didn’t use, since it doesn’t really matter ‘Believe in God’ or ‘been saved’, there really is little difference.  Sorry, but your claim that only those who believe in God (Or been saved) as you do can understand the Bible is ridiculous, as ridiculous as it gets.  If anything it is those like me, who read the Bible with an open mind, who are going to understand what it actually says the best.  You are believers like you are going to read it with rose colored glasses, wanting it to all to fit with what you already believe it will fit with.  You are fully unable to read it and understand what it is actually saying, while I read and straight out can grasp what is being said. Of course you had to push the idea that you KNOW you have been saved because you got it right, while others who don’t understand God and the Bible like you do have not been yet.  Must be great to KNOW that you got it right and have been saved.  That is just so humble of you.

 Of course you have no links to give me, since there are NONE.  You will not find a single documented case of atheists EVER crying out a confusion on their death bed.  I’ve looked.  As for your source of this information, well I don’t know these people at all so I won’t make any such judgment calls one way or the other about their integrity in such things.  But here is what I DO know:

1. If these are the same people who gave you the misinformation about Pagans having orgies as part of their Easter celebration (Something which is undeniably FALSE with NO evidence at all to support the claim) I have to questions any claims they make, especially ones that sound so full of propaganda and lacking any documentation.

2. How many atheist’s death beds have your ‘adopted father’ been at?  With how rare death bed confusion actually are, The chances that you just happen to know someone who has been at one, let alone more than one, especially with an event as undocumented as an atheist begging for forgiveness is really hard to believe.

3. You see this IS the kind of thing that would end up on youtube if there was any documentation of it out there.  That is what youtube is used for.  If such a thing has ever occurred, let alone being as common as you are implying here, there would be a youtube showing it.

4. I can prove that an apple is an apple through documentation of it being an apple an showing that it is what is defined as an apple.  That is 100% different form the situation of an atheist confusing a belief in God on his/her death bed.

5. There is no logic to say ‘something of this nature is not something that is made up’. Something of this nature is very much the kind of thing that is made up all the time.  It is propaganda

6. Hearsay does not make truth and all you have here is pure hearsay, nothing more.

While I will not make any accusations regarding intent, but it does seem like you associate with people who deal in misinformation and pass it along as being truth without actually learning the facts.

If you can go to Heaven and know that anyone who was part of your life has gone to Hell and not go mad, there has to be a large part of your humanity missing there.  I could never be happy living forever knowing that people I cared about are suffering so.  And living for ever sound s as boring as it gets.  For me to be able to deal with living forever, I would have to have a full frontal lobotomy.  And the idea of ‘not ever needing anything’ is not appealing.  Part of what makes life worth living is challenges and having to work for things.

God said not to leave your house on the Sabbath.  It is that simple. God said “Everyone is to stay where he is on the seventh day; no one is to go out." I have no idea how you could take that any other was. He made NO exception to go out to church.  I don’t twist scripture, as you seem to have to in order to not understand that you are NOT suppose to leave your house on the Sabbath unless you are just picking and choosing as you so desire from the Bible.  You have gone and tried to justify why you do not have to follow one of the most clearest rules God gives his followers.  Since you actually believe in the Bible, it is you who might want to think about what Peter is saying there.  I am not the one trying to twist and ignore parts of the Bible because I am not following them.  I still need to find the verse that is God warning against people gathering together in the manner of which modern churches do.  Of course you will most likely figure out some way to twist that as well to justify your actions and lifestyle.  It seems that only those who wish to live life as you do are justified in twisting the words of the Bible to suit their needs.

I don’t care where you got such a idiotic phrase, you still sound like you are on drugs to say it.  From what you keep saying, I see a lot of deception coming from you and those who have mentored you.  You are the one saying she need not go and look up any information outside of the what fits into her little world.  You are very much guilty of willingly self-deceiving yourself. And you seem to embrace that.

I don’t need to twist what the Bible says. If I wrote a book and said ‘Only the dumbest of the dumb would not believe what I say in this book’ does that mean it to be true?  Just because the Bible says that only the foolish are not going to believe what is written in it does not make such a statement fact.  You have nothing at all to defend any verse in the Bible be true. You might believe it to be such, but you CANNOT prove it.

And then we get another drug trip it looks like. ‘You should only follow Christ because Christ is the word and the Bible says that you should only follow the word because the word is God and blah, blah, blah and more gibberish.”  Do you have anything of real substance to put into your arguments, are is it all just following whatever bits and pieces of the Bible appeal to you? I do not want to be part of your grand illusion that is based on a piece of fiction, because I would rather enjoy life and believe it has some meaning.  Just the fact that you say "I MUST DECREASE, AND HE MUST INCREASE" as if that were a good thing shows me I should NOT be following the path you are following.

Could you please provide for me the evidence you have that says that Hell does exists?  And no you cannot just say the Bible says so as your proof.  Reality does not work that way.

Once more you show you are clueless about evolution and did not even try to grasp what I have already said.  Evolution follows NO path.  It is always in motion, but there is no way to know what the outcome is going to be or when we will see it happen firsthand.

Evolutionists do not just throw stuff out there or make anything up  The have actual undeniable evidence that evolution has taken place and have made very sound theories on how it works.  Theories that have not been disproven, unlike the simple fact that it HAS been disproven that Earth was made in six days.  That is actually really easy to disprove

You cannot really say the Earth is evolving. It is not going to have offspring after all.  Now it is changing and it is always in motion as well with its changes. 

Then you end with showing yourself to be greatly confused about evolution ad the Big Bang theory. They are two DIFFERENT ideas that are unrelated.  One deals with the origins of life here on Earth and the other deals with origins of the universe itself.  The thing with science is that it is always changing as new FACTS are learned, which puts it as being a far better source of information than a book written thousands of years ago with nothing at all to document the accuracy of what it says.  The Big Bang theory is changing, but there is no great movement of scientists going away from it.  Is this another ‘fact’ from your ‘adoptive father’?  And with more and more proof of evolution everyday, there is no signs of scientist turning away from that idea either.

posted by kooka_lives on April 14, 2009 at 2:39 PM | link to this | reply

Re: kooka...

NO NO NO KOOKA, I DID NOT SAY THAT I WAS AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PRODUCE OFFSPRING (YOU'RE GOOD AT TRYING TO TWIST MY WORDS, BUT YOU SHOULD STOP SO ILL NOT HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF ALL OF THE TIME). IN TRYING TO PROVE MY POINT TO YOU REGARDING SAME SEX RELATIONS, I SIMPLY POINTED YOUR ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT "BEING FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLYING". YOU SAY HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS, AND THAT YOU SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING CHILDREN,(I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING CHILDREN EITHER SO LONG AS A MAN AND WOMAN ARE MARRIED). IM WONDERING HOW YOU CAN DEFEND SOMETHING THAT IS OBVIOUSLY SO UN-NATURAL? IT'S PRETTY EASY TO SEE THAT GOD DID NOT INTEND FOR THE SAME SEX TO HAVE INTIMANT RELATIONS. ANYONE WHO HAS STUDIED ANATOMY COULD SEE THAT, TO SAY THE LEAST. ALSO, WHY WOULD GOD DESTROY SODOM AND GOMORRAH IF HE CONDONED HOMOSEXUALITY? (WOULD YOU DESTROY SOMETHING YOU AGREED WITH?) I KNOW SAME SEX RELATIONS ARE INFACT WRONG-NOT BECAUSE OF A "CHURCH DOCTRINE" BUT BECAUSE OF THE LORDS WORDS, NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S. I JUST HAPPEN TO BLESSED WITH CHURCH WHO ACTUALLY TEACHES THE BIBLE, AND NOT SOME PERVERSION OF WHAT SOMEONE HAS FATHOMED. DO ME A FAVOR AND READ ROMANS CHAPTER 1 BEFORE YOU POST YOUR NEXT COMMENT.

 ALSO, I DID NOT SAY THAT YOU MUST "BELIEVE" IN GOD TO UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE-I SAID THAT "YOU HAVE TO BE SAVED". THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE.YOU YOURSELF KOOKA ARE NOT SAVED, AND THEREFORE YOU CANT DISCERN THE SCRIPTURE, IT IS SPIRTUALLY DISCERNED. YOU CAN "THINK" YOU UNDERSTAND IT, BUT YOU INFACT DO NOT INTERPRIT IT OF THE LORD, YOU INTERPRIT IT OF YOUR OWN SELF, AND IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.AND THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE QUICK TO SAY "OH I BELIEVE IN GOD" WELL GOOD FOR THEM, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY HAVE BEEN SAVED. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE SWEET LORD HAS COME TO MAKE AN ABODE IN THEIR HEART AND THEIR LIFE. AND AS YOU HAVE PROBABLY SUMMED THAT UP WHILE READING THIS, THOSE TYPES WHO THROW THAT "I BELIEVE" PHRASE AROUND AND DON'T FOLLOW HIS COMMANDMENTS ARE-AS YOU KNOW, HYPOCRITES. SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT "NOT EVERYONE WHO CRIES LORD LORD WILL ENTER IN". SO THOSE WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE "IN"  SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY "BELIEVED" ,WONT BE ENTERING INTO THOSE PEARLY GATES PERIOD.

AND I HAVE NO SUCH LINKS TO GIVE YOU FOR THE ATHEIST WHO WERE CRYING FOR MERCY ON THEIR DEATH BEDS. PERSONAL EXPERIANCES HAVE NO LINKS THAT I AM AWARE OF. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I READ ON THE INTERNET, I DON'T GET MY INFORMATION FROM THE WORLD WIDE WEB. MY "ADOPTED DAD" AS I CALL HIM, IS SOMEONE I HAVE KNOWN SINCE I WAS 8 YEARS OLD, AND HIS WIFE ALSO, ARE BOTH LIKE PARENTS TO ME. THEY HAVE BEEN SAVED FOR ALMOST 44 YEARS AND ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF LYING, AND THEY NEVER WOULD. THEY BOTH KNOW OF THESE ATHEIST, AND SO DO MANY OTHER CLOSE FRIENDS. AND I WOULD TRUST THESE PEOPLE WITH MY LIFE. AND SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS MADE UP. SO IM SORRY I DONT HAVE A LINK FOR YOU, ALTHOUGH I WISH I DID. BUT IM SURE THIS IS NOT THE SORT OF THING THAT YOU WOULD FIND ON UTUBE. YOU CAN ACCEPT THIS TRUTH OR NOT. EITHER WAY, IT'S STILL TRUE. FOR EXAMPLE, AN APPLE DOES NOT CHANGE INTO AN ORANGE SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DONT BELIEVE THE TRUTH THAT THE APPLE IS IN FACT, AN APPLE. YOU COULD STARE AT THE APPLE  ALL DAY BELIEVING ITS AN ORANGE, AND IT WILL NEVER CHANGE TO AN ORANGE. AND I COULD SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT YOUR NON-BELIEF IN HEAVEN AND HELL. MOVING ON...

HEAVEN IS NOT A PLACE THAT TAKES AWAY EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE. INFACT, SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT "YOU WILL BE KNOWN AS YOU WERE KNOWN". THE SOUL IN ME RIGHT NOW, WILL ONE DAY SHED THIS FLESHLY BODY OF MINE, AND I WILL BE GIVEN A BRAND NEW ONE THAT SHALL NEVER DIE WHEN IN HEAVEN. TO GIVE A SIMPLE AND EARTHLY EXAMPLE: IT'S KINDA LIKE EXCHANGING A USED CAR FOR A BRAND SPANKIN NEW ONE. JUST BECAUSE IT'S NEW DOES NOT MEAN IT'S NO LONGER A CAR. EXCEPT THE NEW CAR WOULD NEVER NEED ANY SERVICES, AND WOULD NEVER BREAK DOWN OR SHOW SIGNS OF WEAR AND TEAR, AND IT WOULD DRIVE FOREVER NOT EVER NEEDING ANYTHING.

THE EXODUS SCRIPTURE YOU GAVE IS TALKING ABOUT THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL WHEN THEY WERE OUT IN THE WILDERNESS, CONSTANTLY ON THE MOVE IN SEARCH OF THE LAND FLOWING WITH MILK AND HONEY. OF COURSE THERE WAS NO CHURCH OR TEMPLE IN THE WILDERNESS TO ATTEND. WHERE EVER THEY SET UP CAMP WAS WERE THEY WORSHIPED. THEY BUILT ALTARS TO SACRIFICE AND WORSHIP. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PERMANANT HOME. THEY WERE IN SEARCH OF IT. FURTHERMORE, GOD SAID "HOW LONG REFUSE YE TO KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS AND MY LAWS?' HE SAID THIS BECAUSE SOME WENT OUT TO GATHER THE MANNA ON THE SABBATH AFTER HE TOLD THEM NOT TO.HE TOLD THEM TO ABIDE IN THEIR PLACE AS NOT TO GO OUT TO GATHER THE MANNA. GATHERING IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED WORK. BUT GOING TO CHURCH IS NOT WORK -IT IS WORSHIP. GOD WAS ANGRY BECAUSE SOME DISOBEYED IN TRYING TO WORK ON THE SABBATH AND GATHER THE MANNA IN THEIR LACK OF FAITH THAT GOD WOULD PROVIDE FOR THEM, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH CHURCH. THEY WERE COMMANDED TO WORSHIP THE LORD. JUST BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A BUILDING EVERY FEW HUNDRED MILES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WILDERNESS DONT MEAN THAT THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO GO TO CHURCH. DON'T BE SIMPLE MINDED. THE "CHURCH" WAS WHERE EVER THEY ENDED UP IN THE WILDERNESS, WHETHER IT BE A TENT OR A MOUNTAIN TOP. AND DON'T TWIST THE SCRIPTURE AROUND TO USE IT FOR YOUR BENIFIT, THE BIBLE WARNS OF THIS IN 2PETER 3:16 IT SAYS "AS ALSO IN ALL HIS EPISTLES, SPEAKING IN THEM OF THES THINGS; IN WHICH ARE SOME THINGS HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD, WHICH THEY THAT ARE UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE WREST, AS THEY DO ALSO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION."

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE I GOT THAT PHRASE I SPOKE OF? TRY THE BIBLE. IT COMES FROM THE SCRIPTURE IN 1ST TIMOTHY 4:1-2. IT SAYS " NOW THE SPIRIT SPEAKETH EXPRESSLY, THAT IN THE LATTER TIMES SOME SHALL DEPART FROM THE FAITH, GIVING HEED TO SEDUCING SPIRITS, AND DOCTRINES OF DEVILS;SPEAKING LIES IN HYPOCRISY; HAVING THEIR MINDS SEARED WITH A HOT IRON." THATS WHY I SAID YOUR MIND WAS SEARED WITH A HOT IRON. YOU'VE BEEN DECEIVED.

THE BIBLE CALLS YOU A FOOL BECAUSE YOU SAY "THERE IS NOT GOD" PERHAPS YOU THINK THIS IS SILLY BECAUSE IS IT STATED SO SIMPLY AND IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO TWIST THAT ONE AROUND AS YOU DO THE OTHERS. BUT EVEN SO THAT VERSE IS TRUE.

ON BEING A "FOLLOWER", CHRIST IS THE ONLY ONE TO FOLLOW. AND SINCE "IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD AND THE WORD WAS GOD" IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO FOLLOW THE BIBLE CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT THE "WORD WAS GOD". SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT "THIS EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY, BUT HIS WORD WILL NOT PASS AWAY" SO WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING THAT IS A SURE THING, RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT WILL SOON BE BURNING UP IN HELL? (WHICH INFACT DOES EXIST). I  MYSELF DON'T WANT TO BE FOLLOWED, I REPRESENT CHRIST, NOT MYSELF. "I MUST DECREASE, AND HE MUST INCREASE".

IF YOU ARE "STILL EVOLVING" AS YOU BELIEVE. THEN WHAT EXACTLY WILL YOU BE EVOLVING INTO. WHAT IS THIS EARTH "STILL EVOLVING" INTO? GOD CREATED THIS EARTH AND EVERYTHING IN IT IN 6 DAYS, IT DOESN'T TAKE MILLIONS OF YEARS. IT TOOK 6 DAYS. AND MY STUDY OF EVOLUTION CONSIST IN GENESIS 1:1. THAT IS ALL I NEED. I KNOW WHAT EVOLUTIONIST SAY, AND THEY CAN'T EVEN PROVE THEMSELVES RIGHT. THEY JUST THROW OUT SOME RANDOM IDEAS BECAUSE GOD IS SO FAR ABOVE THEIR INTELLECT, THEY HAVE TO MAKE THINGS UP. INFACT IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD LATELY, THEY ARE HAVING SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT THEIR OUTRAGEOUS MADE UP "KA-BOOM" STORY.

posted by onwingsoflove on April 13, 2009 at 6:33 PM | link to this | reply

Wings

posted by kooka_lives on April 13, 2009 at 3:36 PM | link to this | reply

REDSTATESMAN, I HUMBLY THANK YOU SIR...

I APPRECIATE YOU MORE THAN YOU'LL EVER KNOW.

posted by onwingsoflove on April 12, 2009 at 8:22 PM | link to this | reply

WOW!

The only thing I can say here is, great job Bama girl! I could not have put it any better. You are absolutely 100% correct!

 

GREAT POST!

posted by RedStatesMan on April 12, 2009 at 8:09 PM | link to this | reply

Re: KOOKA YOU JUST DON'T GET IT DO YOU...

IM GOING TO STOP TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE "IMPLICATION OF THE CURSE WORD" POST TO YOU. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT, AND YOU MAY TAKE IT HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE. IM GLAD YOU FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHICH ABREVIATION I WAS SPEAKING OF, AND YES I AM AN ADULT WHO DOENS'T LIKE MY LORD BEING DISRESPECTED. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO IMPLY THE WORDS, DO IT UNDER A DIFFERENT CATEGORY...MOVING ON...

AND YOU ARE STILL MAKING NO SENSE TO ME REGARDING WHY YOU WOULD STUDY SOMETHING THAT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN. YOUR RESPONSE WAS "TO UNDERSTAND IT". THAT WOULD BE LIKE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE EARTH IS A SQUARE AND ALL THE WHILE KNOWING THAT ITS ROUND. AND WHY WOULD I WANT TO TRY AND FIND THE TRUTH WHEN IVE ALREADY FOUND IT. WHY WOULD I LOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY FACE?

IN REFERENCE TO YOUR SEXIST COMMENT WHICH I BELIEVE YOU ARE REFERING TO THE SCRIPTURE STATING "THAT GOD IS HEAD OVER THE CHURCH AND THE MAN IS THE HEAD OVER THE WOMAN, AND THE WOMAN SHOULD REVERENCE HER HUSBAND" AND THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT MEN KNOW IT ALL AND WOMEN ARE STUPID. AS YOU SHOULD RECALL IN GENISUS, GOD SAID THAT "THE WOMAN WAS GIVEN TO THE MAN AS A HELP MEET FOR HIM." SO WITH THAT SAID, WHY WOULD SOMEONE WHO IS SOOOOO SMART NEED HELP? THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE STUDENT HELPING THE TEACHER, WOULD IT NOT? GOD WENT FURTHER TO SAY THAT "IT IS NOT GOOD FOR MAN TO BE ALONE". SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE GUYS NEED US AFTER ALL HUH?

REGARDING YOUR AGREEMENT WITH HOMOSEXUALITY, NOTICE ALSO THAT GOD MADE A WOMAN FOR ADAM AND NOT A MAN. AND THAT WOULD ALSO HAVE YOU CONTRADICTING YOURSELF YET AGAIN. BECAUSE IF BOTH ARE MEN IN A RELATIONSHIP, THEN WHO'S SUPPOSED TO REVERENCE THE OTHER ONE, AND THE SAME QUESTION WOULD APPLY TO A LESBIAN COUPLE.HMMM... AND FURTHERMORE, YOU YOURSELF CANNOT IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE BETTER THAN A FEMALE OR A MAN OR A PRIMATE FOR THAT MATTER. THE BIBLE IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED, AND GUESS WHAT? YOU DO NOT HAVE GODS SPIRIT LIVING IN YOU, SO THEREFORE, YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT PERIOD.

THE ATHEIST YOU ASKING ABOUT SAYING"HOW WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT SOMEONE WAS THINKING ON THEIR DEATH BED" THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS SIMPLE...THEY WERE SCREAMING FOR MERCY, NOT MERELY "THINKING ABOUT IT". AND YES, IT'S HAPPENED.

I AM USING NO "SCARE TACTICS" REGARDING HELL. I DON'T HAVE TO. IF YOU ACTUALLY UNDERSTOOD THE BIBLE(WHICH IS AN IMPOSSIBLE THING FOR YOU TO DO ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE) THEN READING ABOUT HELL IS SCARY IN ITSELF.

ALSO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU SAY THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE IN HOMOSEXUALITY NOR UNDERSTAND IT? I UNDERSTAND IT COMPLETLY, AND IT IS INFACT AN ABOMINATION, I DO BELIEVE IT IS GOING ON AND UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT AND SICKNESS OF IT AS WELL. IM TELLING YOU IT IS WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT "EVEN NATURE ITSELF TEACHES THAT THESE THINGS ARE NOT NATURAL".SO YES, I KNOW WHAT THEY DO, BUT IT IS INFACT SIN. UNFORTUANTLY YOUR EYES CANT SEE PAST THE LUST OF YOUR OWN FLESH. CAREFUL, YOU MAY END UP LIKE THEM. WOULD YOU HAVE INTIMANT RELATIONS WITH ANOTHER MAN?

IN REFERENCE TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT "GOD SAYING THAT WE SHOULD NOT GO TO CHURCH" TRY THIS VERSE ON FOR SIZE: HEBREWS 10:25 "NOT FORSAKING THE ASSEMBLING OF OURSELVES TOGETHER, AS THE MANNER OF SOME IS; BUT EXHORTING ONE ANOTHER: AND SO MUCH THE MORE AS WE SEE THE DAYS APPROACHING."

FURTHER MORE, YOUR MIND IS NOT RATIONAL AS YOU SO OFTEN SPEAK SO HIGHLY OR YOURSELF. YOUR MIND HOWEVER, HAS BEEN SEARED WITH A HOT IRON, AS THE BIBLE WOULD STATE.

GOOD FOR YOUR WIFE THAT AT LEAST SHE BELIEVES THEIR IS A GO- UNLIKE YOU. BUT SAD FOR YOUR WIFE THAT ONLY BELIEVING THAT THERE'S A GOD WON'T IN NO WAY SAVE HER.AND GOD SAYS"IF YOU LOVE ME, YOU'LL KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS" AND IF ONE THINKS THAT THE BIBLE IS FOOLISHNESS THEN OBVIOUSLY THE COMMANDMENTS ARE NOT BEING KEPT. "THE FOOL SAYS IN HIS HEART THERE IS NO GOD" SO I GUESS ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, THAT MAKES YOU A FOOL DOESN'T IT? AS FOR YOUR CHILDREN, I HOPE THEY DON'T FOLLOW IN EITHER OF THOSE PATHS.

LASTLY, IM NOT ASKING YOU TO FOLLOW ME AT ALL. IM NOT ANYTHING. AND IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE LORD SAVING A WRETCH LIKE ME, I WOULD BE WELL ON MY WAY TO HELL MYSELF. AND THE COMMENT I MADE REGARDING YOU BEING A FOLLOWER, WAS REGARDING THE LESBIANS. AS YOU STATED THAT YOU HAD TALKED TO OTHER WOMEN AND THEY SAID THEY'D RATHER LOOK AT A WOMANS BODY THAN A MAN'S. (IS THAT YOUR ATTEMPT TO JUSTIFY YOURSELF?) ALSO, YOU FOLLOW THE "FACTS" OF MANKIND. MONKEYS? SERIOUSLY. IT IS SO RIDICULOUS COMING FROM ANYONE MOUTH. I DON'T CARE WHO IT IS.IF MAN EVOLVED FROM MONKEYS, THEN WHY AREN'T THEY STILL EVOLVING? THERE ARE STILL MONKEYS OUT THERE CORRECT? WHY AREN'T THEY CHANGING INTO MEN? HMMM... NOW THERES A THOUGHT TO PONDER...

 

 

 

posted by onwingsoflove on April 12, 2009 at 8:05 PM | link to this | reply

Wings, you need to learn English it would seem

posted by kooka_lives on April 12, 2009 at 6:58 PM | link to this | reply

Very engaging! KUDOS to you! sam

posted by sam444 on April 12, 2009 at 3:35 PM | link to this | reply

Re: I REALLY WISH I COULD DRAW YOU A PICTURE...

Gee, by using the word "implication" in my comment pretty much sums up my statement to you regarding "It is clear by the implication of your curse word" .DEFINITION-YOU IMPLIED A CURSE WORD BY ABBREVIATING IT! I refuse to type and repeat what you implied, and stoop to your level that lacks all common sense.

Also, WHY WOULD YOU STUDY SOMETHING YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN? You say you've studied the Bible, why waste your time (as you stated you wouldn't do) You contradict yourself often. And I have infact used a lot to Scripture here, and I have every right too, I actually BELIEVE what I am saying. You're just spouting of things you know NOTHING about. And by the way, this Scripture that you are so quick to make fun of and disregard (and then somehow try and use it in a discussion at your sad attempt to make a point and contradict yourself by doing so) is INFACT THE SAME SCRIPTURE THE GOD OF HEAVEN WILL JUDGE YOU BY ON JUDGEMENT DAY!

I got some news for you, there is a GOD, and a HEAVEN and a HELL. And if you're not careful, you'll end up in Hell. There have been many atheist who suddenly changed their mind while on their death bed. Thats right, all of a sudden, oh, they believe in God when it's time to beg for His mercy. But at that point it is to late. Mercy has then run out. And when in Hell, they remember the Christians who tried to warn them but they refused to heed to them. They will then be humbled and brought down to NOTHING.

 Do you seriously want to die that way? Do you embrace Hell? Do you wish to burn, and burn, and fall into outer darkness forever and ever? Do you want to be tormented for all eternity? It is ultimately YOUR choice. And if that's where you want to go, then no one will stop you. But, I tell you this, you'll have all memory, all senses, everything will be on fire. Everything will be hurting. You'll be in utter torment. The Bible speaks of MANY torments, not just one. And I pray this doesn't happen to you. I pray that God makes you completely miserable on this Earth until you do something about the current condition of your soul. I hope you haven't gone to far already. God only puts up with so much. But you are right about one thing, 'Hell is nightmarish". Heaven is not, I don't know where you pulled that out from.

As for your belief in evolution, you can believe that you were somehow derived from a monkey all you want, if you'd like that to be your extended family, go for it. All of these scientist may have a degree, but boy are they ever IGNORANT.

WHERE IN THE WORLD DID YOU GET YOUR OUTRAGEOUS STATEMENT ABOUT GOD BEING AGAINST CHRISTIANS GATHERING TOGETHER AND WORSHIPPING HIM? THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS JUST THE OPPOSITE. "FORSAKE NOT THE ASSEMBLING OF YOURSELVES TOGETHER, AND DO IT EVEN MORE SO AS YOU SEE THE LAST DAYS APPROACHING" HOWS THAT? ALSO, JESUS WAS ALWAYS GOING TO THE TEMPLE TO TEACH, AND CROWDS IN COUNTLESS NUMBERS SURROUNDED HIM. YOU REALLY SHOW YOUR LACK OF INTELLIGENCE HERE, BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU DON'T CLAIM TO BE OF THE HUMAN RACE ANYWAY.

Also, yes I proclaim what IS right, but I also practice what I preach. While you however talk about something you DO NOT even  believe in-are you serious? Furthermore, Jesus taught about His Father. And gave all Glory to the Father. He also asked one of the thieves on the cross, "Do you not fear God?" Sounds kind of like you doesn't it? Because if you feared Him, you would not tempt Him as you do (just as that thief did). By the way, that thief did NOT go to Heaven.

And yes, I did go to church today, as I do every Sunday(not just because it's Easter) I did not participate in the "traditions" of man as I stated I would not such as hunting aimlessly for an egg. I did however worship and reverence my Lord for what took place on the cross some 2000 years ago, which I also do everyday, and not just on Easter. "LET EVERYTHING THAT HATH BREATH PRAISE THE LORD" Sounds like something Christians should do huh?

I sincerely feel sorry for you. I have never spoken to someone as deceived as you are. You think that you just die and thats it? I don't understand your way of thinking. And whats even worse is the fact that your family will follow you. What will you do on judgment day with you family's blood dripping from your hands? And to know that you led them straight there. What a horrible feeling that would be for someone.

Have you ever read about the rich man in the Bible? When he got to Hell he told of how he was tormented in the flames there. And he begged for just one drop of water. And he wanted someone to go and warn his 5 brothers to get saved and turn from their wicked ways. That same rich man is still burning there as we speak.

You need to examine yourself-not scientific "facts". Your one of those people who are just "doing it" because everyone else is doing it. You are a follower. Why not be a leader? What a testimony it would be if you got right with the Lord. That would be an awesome thing to happen. You would be a completely different person. Your children could have a praying father, and you wife would have a Christian husband.

Why do you tempt the Lord so? Be careful. God sometimes works in drastic ways to get peoples attention.

I would choose my words wisely if I were you. I pray that you will one day be saved.

 

 

 

 

posted by onwingsoflove on April 12, 2009 at 12:47 PM | link to this | reply

Wings

posted by kooka_lives on April 12, 2009 at 11:37 AM | link to this | reply

Re: HERE WE GO....

First of all... I did not say that you WERE cursing, I said you implied them...and you did with your abbreviations, so do not put words in my mouth. You might as well have said them, you were thinking them. And the Bible says that "Out of the abundance of a mans heart he speaketh". So if you are going to abbreviate the curse words you might as well spell out the whole thing. I do however appreciate the fact that you did not do that in your response in this most recent response comment.

Furthermore, It is clear that you aren't representing Christ in anyway, my point to you was that you should not be throwing random Scripture around to try and defend something you could care less about. The Bible isn't a "spare tire" you can't just take it out and use it when ever you feel you need it. You shouldn't pretend to know something about something you know nothing about.

Also, Yes, I do go to church, and have been for a very, very long time. And these "facts" you speak of (as you stated that I am doing myself such an injustice not reading ) are pointless for me to read when the only thing in this world that matters is what the Bible says. It's the only truth. Man can give all of the "facts" they want, but MAN is not God. MAN also believes that we came from monkeys, and they have so-called "facts" to back that up as well. I pray that you don't believe in evolution. I am curious as to what you do believe in though-seriously. Because you stated that you'll not waste your time with religion, so then do you just think when you die that it's over, and there is no Heaven or Hell. I really am interested in you beliefs. I know it is completely off of this current subject, but still I'd like to know.

I am well aware that not everyone who gets pregnant does so by the means of "fornication", however, speaking on the pagan issue with Easter, that's exactly what they did-they had sex with every female possible as fast as they could, with as many as they could in order to get them pregnant-God by the way, HATES this paganism.

I do enjoy Christmas and Easter, so don't get me wrong on that. But I choose to enjoy these holidays by simply acknowledging why they are what they are, and why we should celebrate them. And celebrating the TRUE meaning of them have nothing to do with eggs, bunnies, trees, or gold and silver ornaments. So why waste your time with something so vain? Something that doesn't matter.

You also stated that you were respectful to me in your first post, but I highly disagree with you. Telling me that I am spreading propaganda is hardly respectful. You also stated that you think I am not representing Christ because of my reply to you from your first post...Sure I'm going to get angry when my faith and my God are attacked. And I have every right to be angry, and there is nothing at all wrong with me defending my Lord. If you recall...Jesus was angry several times in the Bible. He flipped over the money changers table because they were buying and selling at the church. He said they made His house a den of thieves. He has also called some "Snakes and Vipers". So I assume, (in your eyes) you probably think that Jesus was not the Son of God because He got angry and defended His Father.It looks like to me that I am well able to defend the truth, and I will continue to do so. And if I didn't, I would be the one in the wrong.

And furthermore, EVERYTHING in my post IS ACCURATE. Perhaps you are the one who needs to did a litter deeper in YOUR research. We can go back and forth on this forever and a day, but it seems to me that you're the one who lacks the integrity. You can't get your "facts" from man, facts must come from the Bible.

You're more than likely not to change you way of thinking and I will certainly NOT change mine based on what MAN thinks. MAN thinks alot of things, but they'll soon find that they were wrong.

In addition, the "traditional activities" you spoke of are exactly what you said they were...a tradition. "Doing it because everybody else is doing it." This is the majority of the world view. But the road to Hell is wide and so is the gate, but I choose to be on the straight and narrow myself. The one that does not include the traditions of MAN.

Also, you spoke of Halloween, and I've got lots of info. for you on that one. That is nothing but PAGANISM. It's scary too. And if you think what those people did was right, then I question YOUR integrity. So I suppose we will be butting  heads, but that's ok, I don't mind a bit. So thanks for the warning, I'll be looking forward to it.

Lastly, regarding the double post on your page, that was an accident. I left out a word in my response and tried to fix it with a copy and paste, and then it would not let me delete it.

 

 

 

 

posted by onwingsoflove on April 11, 2009 at 8:05 PM | link to this | reply

wings, what curse words and vulgar comments are you talking about?

You really confused me big time with that accusation there.  I used no curse words or vulgar comment sin my comment to you.  In fact I was far more respectful towards you in my comment to you than you were in your reply to me.  Just pointing out your mistakes is not vulgar.

But to correct you once more, fertility has nothing to do with fornicating.  You can be fertile and not be fornicating.  Your issue with the use of fertility symbols still doesn't hold up. My personal feelings regarding 'fornicating' and such should be irrelevant on this, since we are talking not about sexual acts, but about fertility. 

It is too bad that you are unable to enjoy the holidays for just being holidays.  Now you are aware that if you are celebrating Easter at this time of the year, that you are only celebrating it now because of the Pagan holiday?  if your are celebrating easter tomorrow, you are giving into Pagan ideas.  if you celebrate Christmas on or around December 25th, you are participating in Pagan rituals, even if you do not take part in the traditional activities and decorations, many of which have no relationship at all to the misinformation about Pagan culture.

You wish to try and claim I should not pick and choose as I so desire from the Bible, but I do not claim to be following said book.  Do you really wish to start up that debate here?  I've already proven many times that there is not one single believer out there who actually follows the whole Bible.  Heck, darn tooting (Had to make sure I didn't use any of those evil cruise words there), if you go to church you are NOT following the Bible. I can promise you right now without even really knowing you, that you are following only the bits and pieces from the Bible that you wish to follow and are ignoring a large amount of what it says.

I never claimed to be representing Christ. Of course by your words and attitude in that comment, it is clear that you do not represent Christ either.  But we need not go there.  Now just because I do not believe as you do, does not mean I do not have the right to express my beliefs on your religion or to point out where you have made mistakes in your comments about other religions.

I find it sad that you wish to ignore the FACTS just because they do not agree with your ideas.  That in itself would seem to imply that you are the kind of person who "Ever-learning but never coming to knowledge of the truth' because you are refusing to acknowledge the truth when it is presented to you. You do yourself a great injustice and show a great weakness in your beliefs and faith by openly saying you do not want to listen to facts that might go against what you WISH to believe.

The truth is that what you have said in this post about Easter in inaccurate.  That is the TRUTH.  Now you do not have to celebrate Easter with what is the traditional activities if you dislike them, but all I ask is that you make sure you show integrity by not spreading false information on those activities just because you were feed such false information at some point.

And as a warning for six months from now, if you are planning on coming here and spreading false information about Halloween, we will be butting heads on that one.

posted by kooka_lives on April 11, 2009 at 7:04 PM | link to this | reply

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AMEN PREACHER43!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

posted by onwingsoflove on April 11, 2009 at 4:06 PM | link to this | reply

Talking about fornication on the 7 lists of sins found in the writings of the apostle paul the word fornication is found in five of them and is first on the list each time (1 cor:5-11) 

(col: 3-5) in the book of revelation fornication is symbolic of how idolatry and pagan religion defiles true worship of GOD (REV:17:4).  we should pray for people like that but must be reproved great job your friend in CHRIST some of these people are scared to study the word of GOD for fear of finding the undeniable truth so if this person continues to live like that he will die in his own sins GOD BLESS YOU if i may be further assistance please let me know.

posted by preacher43 on April 11, 2009 at 3:57 PM | link to this | reply