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I'll have to look into it. That was exactly how I felt when I read Sue Monk Kidd's The Dance of the Dissident Daughter. It was very much an "Ohhh, that makes much more sense" kind of thing.

posted by womeninthegap on February 8, 2009 at 5:13 PM | link to this | reply

"As I’ve said before, I still lean toward thinking there is a Creator…to me, life is so intricate and amazing, it’s hard to accept it is all “just” science."

You are on the right path to discovery.........blogit is a good place to begin......explore. But, you'll have to dig deeper if you want a better (certainly, more complete) answer to how life began. And, it IS out there. I was raised/educated Catholic but, like you decided all their dogma did not make sense. I have been on a journey ever since.  I recommend Victor Stenger's book "God: The Failed Hypothesis. How Science Shows That God Does Not Exist."

When I read this one I kept saying to myself......"yes, yes, this makes sense.......I get it'.  My husband read it......said the same thing. Now, my oldest son is reading it.

G'luck on your search. ZM

posted by ZenMom on February 8, 2009 at 10:17 AM | link to this | reply

Thanks, mousehop. I have read Origin of Species and have looked into other evolutionary information, though have not yet done a definitive study on the topic. I am excited to see all the information on Darwin being published this year in honor of the 200th anniversary of his birth. I definitely believe various species evolve--can't really refute the science of it--however, I draw the line at primordial ooze. I feel it's more likely that life, in whatever rudimentary form, was created, then evolved naturally through adaptation and survival of the fittest. I guess this is my big argument with Adam & Eve; the Bible gives a more-or-less finite time of creation of man, which I am very skeptical of, and also makes it seem as if man, beast, and world were created in "perfect" form that has remained somewhat stagnant (except for what change has been caused by "free will," of course) ever since.

posted by womeninthegap on February 8, 2009 at 8:39 AM | link to this | reply

I like your approach to nature and life, and I have come to similar conclusions regarding organized religion, but I have gone further, finding issues with disorganized religion as well.  Maybe you should check out the basics of evolution, and see how it explains to exquisite, detailed complexity of life, even the apparent design 'mistakes' that keep scientists on their toes.  It is building with a crane, as Dawkins says, each level allowing lifting one level higher.

posted by mousehop on February 8, 2009 at 8:12 AM | link to this | reply

BC-A, right now I'd rather be a Philosopher than religious! I'm not sure where all my thinking is leading...I'm trying not to throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater. There are things in the Bible that sit well with me (love, forgiveness, do unto others, help the poor), things in science that I consider solid evidence of the origins of life, Buddhist ideas that just make really good sense, thoughts and words from various Philosophers that are sound. I recently bought The Essential Zohar to further muddle my thinking! I just feel very strongly that there are common threads among all these religious, social, and philosophical views and identifying those threads could prove extremely useful.

posted by womeninthegap on February 8, 2009 at 7:49 AM | link to this | reply

 A lot of that isn’t important about how old bones and fossils are. You don’t have to put your faith in chemicals. And I’m only acknowledged as having a certificate with my degree in History in the study of science and technology. However it’s in their cultural effects. That is, in addition to credits in Biology major ecology and horticulture but I’ve been mostly a student of film, mass media, and English. In this way I access that you’ve developed an interesting approach to the interrelatedness of literature and religion. I find your opinion as an interesting alternative philosophy love. May I say bless you? Ha. BCA, Bill*s Ca e

posted by BC-A on February 8, 2009 at 7:13 AM | link to this | reply

You impress me, sam444; from your comments and your own posts, you are obviously solid in your faith, yet you respond to my posts without rancor. If my foundational belief that there is a Creator holds true, I do believe my current path is Creator-directed. I have a strong interest in working to heal divisiveness in many ways, and I don't think I've reached this point of eye-opening randomly...rather, it is part of the path my life is supposed to take.

posted by womeninthegap on February 8, 2009 at 6:38 AM | link to this | reply

I just have faith in the Lord and try to live a wholesome life! I liked your thoughts very much! The coffin is just too precious! It is also a good way to drive the point home too! sam

posted by sam444 on February 8, 2009 at 6:13 AM | link to this | reply

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