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Re: Re: Re: see the Christ in everyone you meet
Xeno-x: your comment below reads, "churches change from..." with a description, "to..." with a description. This is an analysis of chruches, not of the teachings of Jesus and Paul the Apostle.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on December 10, 2008 at 7:40 AM
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Re: Re: see the Christ in everyone you meet
no sociological analysis there -- simply the teachings of Jesus and Paul the Apostle.
posted by
Xeno-x
on December 9, 2008 at 4:09 PM
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Re: see the Christ in everyone you meet
Xeno-x, God is not an object for you to define any more than you are an object for me to define. God is a person, existing as He is; not an item or tool or object. Therefore, I believe a message derived from an image molded out of a socialogical analysis would not be the right message.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on December 9, 2008 at 7:30 AM
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sam, I've not had any direct experience with them, but I'm definitely weary of anyone that self-promotes in the name of the Lord.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on December 9, 2008 at 6:58 AM
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see the Christ in everyone you meet
churches change from the God/Christ "up there" and us "down here" -- the separation -- is holy and we are not -- the hierarchy from the "perfection" of god and the Trinity through the near-perfection of the highest residents of the Church hierarchy through to us peons at the bottom who are so imperfect and groveling in the mire and muck . . .
to everything around us is Holy. We all are holy, which was the message of Yeshua (Jesus), and we hold each other and the world around us as sacred . . .
would that be the right message?
posted by
Xeno-x
on December 9, 2008 at 5:53 AM
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I have not had much experience with them. I am enjoying your thoughts however! I guess I am gun shy of these ministries that ask for money and then it does not seem to do the work of the Lord. sam
posted by
sam444
on December 8, 2008 at 3:09 PM
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Re: Mr Osteen uses these words on his website....
Their site mentions that they've done charity work in Houston, and mention helping Hurricaine Katrina victims, but that's pretty much it.
So OTA, I think you and I aren't the only one missing Jesus in prison, unclothed, hungry, etc...they're missing Him too.
posted by
FineYoungSinger
on December 8, 2008 at 1:06 PM
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Mr Osteen uses these words on his website....
"One final thought: – I love the promise of Psalm 31:19, “How great is
the goodness you have stored up for those who fear you. You lavish it
on those who come to you for protection, blessing them before the
watching world.” I believe as you honor God with your support of
His work, you will experience His blessings and favor in great
and mighty ways. I look forward to hearing from you in the next few
days. Please give as God directs."~Joel Osteen
I can't help but see Tammy Faye's eyelashes brimming with tears as the call to give goes out..
I looked all over that website and can find very little in the way of ministry to the poor. Sunday School and bible study have there place, but where is the outreach to Jesus in prison, unclothed, hungry etc. Have I missed that part of their ministry?
~Peace, OTA
posted by
Blue_feathers
on December 8, 2008 at 12:24 PM
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