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RSM, I've never once made this about race
And I have no idea why you keep bringing that up when no one else is. I have not and will not play the race card, which would mean that Liberals like myself are not the ones you are talking about.
But I already am positive that the Obama years will be much better for America than th Bush years. Well, thing really can't get any worse. And all of my predictions from four years ago about where Bush was taking us have come true, with our economy failing as we lose jobs and the working class get screwed at every turn. My bet is that I will be right once more about where this country is headed. Four years ago you were saying how great it all was and that we will see more growth under Bush and he will create for us a strong economy , none of which happened.
So four years ago you were as wrong as it gets and I was right. So going off of that, whose predictions would you put your money on? The guy who showed he was clueless about where we were headed or the one who nailed it perfectly?
There will be no need to impeach Obama because he will be the President this country needs right now to get us back on track.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 27, 2008 at 6:05 PM
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Re: He is not MY president.
are you drunk?
posted by
calmcantey75
on November 27, 2008 at 5:24 PM
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He is not MY president.
He is the stupidest president we have ever had
he took us into war through lies with no real reason that has killed 4,000 of our finest youth and drained our budget -- he has taken us into the greatest deficit we have ever faced.
I can link you to YouTube clips where he appears quite drunk or stupid.
He only got into office 1. through is daddy's influence and name, 2. by the votes of religious conservatives who want to take over our country, and 3. through manipulations in Florida (and maybe questionable voting machines in Ohio the second time -- plus lying swiftboat veterans) and a Supreme Court that ruled in his favor.
Odd -- I didn't notice the Democrats or even the press saying much against him -- only a few of the more courageous magazines --but mainstream -- no. He had them all cowed. I lamented the lack of opposition during his term, particularly to the Iraq invasion.
Your diatribe doesn't quite hold water as far as I'm concerned.
posted by
Xeno-x
on November 27, 2008 at 5:20 PM
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Re: Janes, Did you find Obama more arrogant than McCain?
Yes, I have already called for his impeachment (as a prediction) you are correct. Back in 1992 and 1996, I said that Clinton was my president and I would support him. However, not this time. I can not and will not support someone as liberal as Obama. It is all about conservative vs. liberal with me. The liberals like kooka are usually quick to turn this to a race thing. Has absolutely nothing to do with race as I have expressed numerous times my support and desire to see a J.C. Watts or Alan Keyes or Dr. Condi Rice presidency. I have contributed to these individuals numerous times and did vote once again for Alan Keyes in this elections' Republican primary. race means nothing to me but beliefs, morals and values mean everything.
Obama is 100% opposite to me on beliefs, morals and values, no matter how much he tries to portray true American values. It comes down to this, I smell a skunk and I do not agree with it and will not support it. It is my right!
posted by
RedStatesMan
on November 27, 2008 at 5:12 PM
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Cantey, sorry about that
Not sure why I said janes there. It was in reply to your comment though.
Happy Thanksgiving to you too. Enjoy the day.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 27, 2008 at 8:04 AM
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Re: Janes, Did you find Obama more arrogant than McCain?
OK, you were addressing an old comment.
I guess we all look alike to like to you? HaHa.
Have a good thanksgiving with your family.
posted by
calmcantey75
on November 26, 2008 at 5:16 PM
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Re: Janes, Did you find Obama more arrogant than McCain?
Kooka, I think you've got the wrong blog.
posted by
calmcantey75
on November 26, 2008 at 4:47 PM
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Janes, Did you find Obama more arrogant than McCain?
One thing that keeps puzzling me is that you are claiming Obama to be arrogant. What I saw was how all politicians are. They have to have that kind of faith in their beliefs. He confidence in his ideas was one of the things that got him elected, so if he seemed arrogant, it was because he at least made it feel like he had a strong conviction about what he was saying. In the end you look at what was said and how it was all said, McCain was far more arrogant than Obama. Obama was straight forward and felt as is he as being honest. McCain would jump around and pretend he didn't need to tell you anything straight forwards, but could dance around the issue. Hell we really saw arrogance with Palin when she said she was not going to answer the questions asked of her at the debate, but instead was going to go of topic and say what she wanted to. Yet I am not about to write a 'open letter' that I will claim is showing respect and go off on how disrespectful or arrogant McCain or Palin were. The only reason to do that would be to show I had no respect for them
And RSM was already calling for Obama's impeachment before the election took place. Check out his posts. He said kept going off about how we will need to impeach Obama because he is going to be that bad of a president.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM
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Re: Wow cantey, that is stretching it big time
I dont think it was an insult because I happen to believe it is true. I did find Obama a little arrogant in his campaign. It's all over. I wish the guy well and I wish people on my side would just grow up and stop listening to Rush Limbaugh like he is Jesus Christ.
Condervative bloggers are demanding his impeachment already? The whole point of this is I hope all this divisive bullshit will just stop, on both sides of the aisle.
I dont care if Obama governs to the far left. I think he should go for it if those are his true convictions. I wish Bush had been more of a far right fiscal conservative, but he spent like a drunken liberal sailor with syphillis. But, as a politician Obama probably knows in his heart that that would ruin his chances for reelection.
posted by
calmcantey75
on November 7, 2008 at 5:59 PM
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Wow cantey, that is stretching it big time
You don't see stuff like "In your campaign, you managed to alienate millions of voters with your divisiveness, your arrogance," not insulting? Do you know what an insult is then, because that was very insulting any way you look at it. The whole open letter is filled with such insults and character attacks.
If Obama does what he has promised, then we will be doing great and this country will be on the right path. of that I have no doubt. That is why he got elected. For him to not follow through with what he has promised, and play it more to the center would be the wrong thing for him to do. You are part of the group that said that Bush should be as far right as possible because he won the majority of votes and that he didn't have to please everyone, just he majority. Here you are say that Obama better please everyone and not be very left at all, even though he got more votes than Bush did. Once more we see how hypocritical you Republicans are.
I am not saying the Republicans need to say they think Obama is going to be great, but don't write him off until he has a chance to prove himself. I have not seen many conservatives here give him the benefit of the doubt. They are already assassinating his character and demonizing him, in just as bad of ways as what was done to Bush back in '00. By '04 we had justification for what we said about Bush, because he had shown us just how bad of a job he was doing. The members of your party are already being as bad as you are criticizing the Bush basher for being back in '00. Of course this time there is not have anything like the BS that happened in Florida to use. I was never one to defend the claim that Bush stole that election and actually got on a lot of people when they started up on that one.
Right now you are going off on how bad the Bush basher where eight years ago, and doing all you can to ignore that the Obama basher right now are just as bad, if not worse. Like I said one of the conservative bloggers here a week ago was already demanding Obama's impeachment. There is NOTHING gracious in that.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 7, 2008 at 3:15 PM
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Re: Cantey, the conservatives here are not giving Obama a chance
Kooka, there is a difference between a person who is genuinely and delibertly dishonest and a person who is either misguided or has a point of view you either don't fully understand or totally reject. I did read WOL open letter and I think it is a stretch to accuse it of containing "insults" and "slander." Like it or not, this country is largely conservative right center. If Obama governs to far to the left, the the prognostications in WOL letter will come true. McCain did not at all run as a conservative, which is why he was smashed by the youthful and inspiring Obama. Not only that, but he ran an incompetant campaign. THe country is sick of Bush and the Republicans who again, have NOT been governening as conservatives. Obama is a breath of fresh air to many people and they were wiling to take a chance with him rather than go with McCain who comes across as more of the same stuff: a republican puppet.
Of course conservatives are not going to fawn over Obama and kiss his feet, but short of doing that does not mean they are not giving him a chance. Giving him a chance means to accept him as their president, give him the benefit of the doubt, and support him until he does something that they genuinly believe is wrong, and
refrain from nipping at his heels and nitpicking. Of course not all conservatives will do this, but Im hoping by and large, as the weeks and months unfold, that they will see beyond their own views and interests and have a supportive attitude, for the sake of the country. THey must not ASSIASINATE his charectar and demonize him on every level no matter wha the does or says, which is what those who opposed Bush have always done, not EVERY single one of them, but the vast majority.
posted by
calmcantey75
on November 7, 2008 at 1:27 PM
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corbin
When you are gracious, you don't put insults into your congratulations. That is not being gracious at all.
Saying "I'm quite sure as Obama stumbles his way through his Presidency" is not being gracious in the least.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 7, 2008 at 12:16 PM
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Sorry..........
But being gracious does not carry a requirement of "Approval"..........that is the same as Gays Rights Activists demanding "Approval" vs "Tolerance"........I will point out where and when promises are being broken, and fraud is being perpetrated.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on November 7, 2008 at 12:03 PM
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Cantey, the conservatives here are not giving Obama a chance
Did you read writeroflight's open letter to Obama? That was filled with insults and slander against Obama at every turn. It told Obama to show his integrity by not following his own promises. It said Obama should appease the voters who did NOT vote for him before caring about those who did vote for him to show how great a leader he is. It made no sense at all.
I have no hate for Bush and have only told it like I see it with the man. I was actually a defender of his before he messed up with Iraq and opened my eyes to just what he was all about.
One BIG difference in '04 was that we had already seen what Bush was all about and really already knew the kind of leader he was. I made a list of predictions myself here on Blogit four years ago about how the economy would basically crash if Bush kept handling things they way he was. I was right. In fact it is almost scary at how easy it was to predict all that has happened over the last few years.
With Obama we've yet to see him in action. The Conservatives have yet to give him a chance. A year from now, if Obama is not doing as he promised or what he is doing is being proven to not work, then there will be cause for the Conservatives to act the way they are acting now. They will THEN be justified. They should at least let the man take office and so something real before they demand he gets impeached. When I see a conservative blogger pushing for Impeachment before the election is even held, that shows me just the level of thinking such people have.
The conservatives are not at all be gracious or giving Obama a good approval rating. They are already crying and bawling and throwing tantrums. Actually read the posts they are writing and you see this already. And I get the feeling it is only going to get worse before Obama takes office.
I do not know if your comment about a blogger who is good at 'nailing down other bloggers weakness' was directed at me, since the only part of that whole sentence that fit me was that I have written a few posts talking about how right now the conservatives are acting bitter an childish and am unaware of any other blogger have witting such things. I hope it is not however, since I take great offense at the implications there. You make it sound like a bad thing to point on when someone is being less than honest. There is nothing wrong with confronting people to get them to be truthful and honest. If you or anyone where to ever see me spread false information or leis I would want to know because I hold myself to a high level of integrity. Of course since I also do not 'nail down' anyone's weakness or faults, I would also find that greatly offensive without something to back such a claim up. And if you are only going off of my issue with a certain 'poor old lady' here on Blogit, then you have no case at all and are just making a baseless attack against my character.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 7, 2008 at 11:44 AM
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