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what a bunch of a-holes. Now who is shoving morality down throats?

posted by calmcantey75 on October 25, 2008 at 2:15 PM | link to this | reply

Re: As the parent of both gay and straight children, I find your rush to

Pat B, one could question the "god given attribute."  I'm not going there, although I strongly question the genetic component of homosexuality. However, I do have a real problem with people suing others because they choose to not provide a service on moral grounds or because of their beliefs.  If someone doesn't want to serve me because i'm a woman or blonde haired, blue eyed, that's their prerogative.  So you have the courts deciding that we must be forced into providing these services for gays and lesbians when there were plenty of others willing to do it.  That type of coercion is out of bounds.

I think you missed the point.

And by the way, many of my patients are gays and lesbians, and I treat them the same way I treat heterosexual folk: with dignity and respect.  Please don't call me a homophobe or religious wingnut. 

posted by JanesOpinion on October 25, 2008 at 2:04 PM | link to this | reply

Sheesh! I leave for a few days and I come back to witness this full blown

discussion on homosexuality.  I'm sorry none of you have strong opinions and are all wishy washy!!!  Thanks, one and all, for stopping by!

posted by JanesOpinion on October 25, 2008 at 1:58 PM | link to this | reply

I tihnk the instances noted are a bit extreme.
I respect those people who, on religious grounds, decline to perform certain activities, and have a problem with those who are so offended by such activities as to press suit.

However, homosexuality is a natural state and has been demonstrated to be such.  Those whose genetic makeup turns them toward same-sex unions should not be excluded or castigated.  They should be afforded the same rights as the rest of us.

Homosexuality is not a moral issue except that it IS NOT IMMORAL.  I have shown that scriptural references do not address homosexuality as we encounter it today.


posted by Xeno-x on October 24, 2008 at 6:22 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: "They" are turning their best to turn it into a powergame...
I disagree with the female thing. It's all in the attitude.

posted by mordent on October 24, 2008 at 4:02 AM | link to this | reply

posted by Blue_feathers on October 23, 2008 at 11:50 AM | link to this | reply

I do not know what Moral Approval means. Yet, I do not believe the courts can confer that. What one expects is not necessarily what one gets.

posted by EX_TURPI on October 23, 2008 at 11:37 AM | link to this | reply

They want us to believe they are not insane. Insanity is doing the same thing and wanting a different outcome. They obviously believe if they keep dumping this in our faces we will come to like it! No it is a very sad thing.

posted by Justi on October 21, 2008 at 8:55 PM | link to this | reply

I find it sad that people would take other people down to gain an advantage for themselves. My faith teaches tolerance, even though I have a brother that is gay, I remain tolerant! I will never be forced  into an ideal I cannot embrace. sam

posted by sam444 on October 21, 2008 at 7:57 PM | link to this | reply

Re: "They" are turning their best to turn it into a powergame...
You need to think on this again -- about who is the "they" you refer to, and whether or not working for the same rights as everyone else is a "powergame."  I think you're vastly overstating the case when you say "it never stops with equality..." That's what men used to say about women's demands for equal pay, credit in their own name, etc. So far women's few steps toward equality haven't displaced men or taken away from their peaceful enjoyment of citizenship. 

posted by Pat_B on October 21, 2008 at 3:22 PM | link to this | reply

Re: As the parent of both gay and straight children, I find your rush to

Most of the time it is genetic, though Christians will disagree.

No one should be attacked for what they are but they're trying their best to turn it into a powergame. It never stops with equality and it will proceed to where they have more rights than the rest of us.

Just look at racial quotas, hate crimes etc.

posted by mordent on October 21, 2008 at 10:20 AM | link to this | reply

As the parent of both gay and straight children, I find your rush to

judgment about the "homosexual agenda" both threatening and stupid!  Moral approval of a genetic trait -- a god-given attribute? Who are you to do that kind of judging? How do you know what's going on inside another person's heart, let alone the wants and needs of "the gay community"?

I've done years of research and given considerable thought to straight/gay situations -- my gay children -- even in this enlightened age -- walk in fear for their very lives because of harsh judgments and unreasonable fear among homophobics and religious wingnuts. Its the way they were born, not a choice or decision they made - who would choose to become a hated outcast?  Comments and blogs like this one are misguided and dangerous. 

posted by Pat_B on October 21, 2008 at 5:53 AM | link to this | reply

The sqeaky wheel gets the most oil
I wonder if the woman that was inseminated 3 times ever gave thought that she has it ass-backwards?

posted by mordent on October 21, 2008 at 2:26 AM | link to this | reply

Hi Jane - Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile.

posted by ammon on October 20, 2008 at 7:48 AM | link to this | reply

I'm surprised they even find judges
who waste their time with such stupidity. What happens if a photographer is gay and refuses to photograph my heterosexual union? Do I sue him/her for sexism? What's good for the goose is good for the gander!

posted by NewYorker_in_Sicily on October 20, 2008 at 7:44 AM | link to this | reply

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