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Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac insured them, but private banks sold them and didn't follow sound business practices.  Blaming Clinton's policies with regard to low income housing for this crisis is like blaming your neighbor's chiropractor for your back pain.  Both have something to do with backs . . .

Congressional Democrats play politics, I agree.  But blaming them for the fiscal irresponsibility of the federal government under Bush is something of a stretch.  Sadly, it is likely that under a Democratic president, with stronger majorities in the House and Senate, fiscal responsibility will not be the highest priority.

posted by mousehop on October 17, 2008 at 12:38 PM | link to this | reply

well it ain't as truthful as you let on
next day or so I'll link to the truth.

not biased lopsided propaganda

posted by Xeno-x on October 15, 2008 at 8:45 PM | link to this | reply

Re: ACORN to McCain: Have You Lost That Loving Feeling?
katray, I appreciate your perspective.  However, keep in mind that McCain spoke there in 2006 which was not a presidential election year.  Now two years later, it has become apparent that ACORN folk are out there encouraging/twisting peoples' arms to vote for Obama.  The times, they have a-changed. 

posted by JanesOpinion on October 15, 2008 at 7:03 PM | link to this | reply

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Excuse me, mousehop, but Fannie and Freddie guaranteed 50% of the loans that went belly up.  That is a HUGE amount! 

Regarding Bush's admin, I would be the first to agree that he has spent way too much.  He has not acted with conservative principles.  And he's been supported in his expenditures by your Democratic friends!  Remember, even a majority of Dems supported Iraq which has cost what, $700 billion plus?  They supported the war before it became unpopular. . . . .

posted by JanesOpinion on October 15, 2008 at 6:59 PM | link to this | reply

A bad loan is a bad loan! I have never cared for the Clontons and Obama is not far behind. I want leadership not folks with band-aids that require surgery down the road! sam

posted by sam444 on October 14, 2008 at 10:37 AM | link to this | reply

I am not a Democrat or Obama fan - he's went along with things that show
he may be partial to letting business as usual continue..My hope is for viable independent parties, but that's not happening..yet..so reality has to be dealt with. Obama does seem more open to real change, if pressed, prodded, pulled and believe me, that's what many of us voting for him are willing to do...:) The life of governance needs to go back to the people; bloodied and chaotic as we are, instead of squeezed unto death of democracy in the hands of greed driven elites. This country, world and majority of citizens cannot endure another spell of Republican control.

posted by Katray2 on October 14, 2008 at 8:11 AM | link to this | reply

A refusal/inability (?) to face the reality
of Fact as opposed to fantasy is hypnotism.

posted by Katray2 on October 14, 2008 at 7:37 AM | link to this | reply

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Actually, we are looking, but we see a broader view.  We know, for example, that most of ACORN's work is within the law, but that there are quality control issues with their voter registration efforts.  We know (see comment) that McCain has supported ACORN's efforts in the past.  We also know that, despite Janes' repeated insistence, Clinton's policies of pressing for more mortgages for the working class are not the cause of the current financial crisis, because most of the bad mortgages at its base were not from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but from private institutions.  Fannie Mae and Freedie Mac have played an important role, but that has been in creating and dealing in Mortgage-Backed Securities based on bad loans.  We acknowledge that Democrats have been too easily influenced by lobbyists for Fannie and Freddie, and resisted attempts to increase regulation over the years, but as those regulations failed to pass while Republicans controlled both houses of Congress with strong majorities, we consider that a failure of leadership on the part of the Republicans.  We will keep our eyes on the Democrats, but I, for one, am not willing to turn power back to the Republicans after seeing what they've done with the federal budget over the last 8 years.  Democrats may be tax-and-spend liberals, but Republicans are borrow-and-spend liberals (you can hardly call their recent actions 'conservative'), and that's worse.

posted by mousehop on October 14, 2008 at 7:28 AM | link to this | reply

Isn't it amazing! The libs are hypnotized. He can do no wrong.

posted by mordent on October 14, 2008 at 7:13 AM | link to this | reply

ACORN to McCain: Have You Lost That Loving Feeling?
From The Wall Street Journal:
MIAMI, Oct 13, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Senator Allied with ACORN as Recently as 2006, Now Turns Cold Shoulder
U.S. Senator John McCain's recent attacks on the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), are puzzling given his historic support for the organization and its efforts on behalf of immigrant Americans. As recently as February 20, 2006, Senator McCain was the keynote speaker at an ACORN-sponsored Immigration Rally in Miami, Florida at Miami Dade College - Wolfson Campus.

Geez, you guys need to do some fact checking every once in awhile....:)


posted by Katray2 on October 13, 2008 at 7:22 PM | link to this | reply

Oh yes the lovely nutty Acorns. The Annenberg (hope spelled right) Challenge is the money Ayers gave him. This is a good post, Lots of people are putting out the truth now and nobody on the left is looking, caring, listening and they haven't a clue that they will be walked all over as the slaves of Obama.

posted by Justi on October 13, 2008 at 6:50 PM | link to this | reply

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