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Draught
Los Vegas wouldn't exist without the Hoover Dam and why anyone would live in Phoenix is beyond me. Draught has existed for how many thousands of years? And gee maybe if there were less people living in LA there wouldn't be a water crisis.
Your cause and effect logic needs a little upgrade.
posted by
witenite3333
on August 30, 2008 at 1:59 PM
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I noticed you didn't comment on the hurricanes and tornadoes stuff and now you change channels to disappearing glaciers etc etc.
You really need to check things.
1. The world went through a Little Ice Age in the 17th & 18th Century. That is proven. Where do you think the glaciers came from? Uhh gee they must have grown during this time now they are in the shrinking phase. Big deal anyway - glaciers are a health hazard and should be shrunk.
2. How do you know that the shrinking did not happen 1000 years ago, 2000 years ago blah blah blah.
Do some basic research before posting junk science. Yes NASA holds a AGW position and some of their climate related stuff is spun and twisted to suit.
posted by
witenite3333
on August 30, 2008 at 1:55 PM
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Re: Hurricanes and Tornadoes.
then are you saying that the disappearing glaciers, the lower water levels in the Colorado River Reservoirs, the drought in the SW -- this is all due to better weather reporting instruments?
When Los Angeles, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Denver, etc. all face water crises and people are faced with even drinking less, let alone watering lawns and usage for cleanness -- then you tell them that there's nothing we can do. That they are basically just screwed and might face greater crises in the near future.
posted by
Xeno-x
on August 30, 2008 at 8:23 AM
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Re: Media Reports Global Warming - Posted by witenite3333
I DON'T RELY ON MEDIA REPORTS!!!
This is actual data from the National Weather Service, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NASA, etc. These are facts.
All you have to is show the facts that I present to be wrong, rather than the speculation you are engaging in.
posted by
Xeno-x
on August 30, 2008 at 8:19 AM
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Media Reports Global Warming
Contrary to popular opinion, media reports on supposed alarmist views on global warming are NOT what they appear to be. The media SUPPORTS AGW and will twist and spin anything that can support AGW. Luckily however there are enough smart skeptics out there who keep track of real science reports that is the one the media will not report.
posted by
witenite3333
on August 30, 2008 at 6:23 AM
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Hurricanes and Tornadoes.
Are there really more hurricanes and tornadoes or is it that we have MORE measuring instruments to detect hurricanes and tornadoes? However here is a study for you to digest on hurricanes.
A Twentieth-Century History of North Atlantic Hurricanes
Reference
Elsner, J.B., Niu, X. and Jagger, T.H. 2004. Detecting shifts in hurricane rates using a Markov Chain Monte Carlo approach. Journal of Climate 17: 2652-2666. What was done
The authors conducted a "changepoint analysis" of time series of annual major North Atlantic hurricane counts and annual major U.S. hurricane counts for the 20th century, which technique, in their words, "quantitatively identifies temporal shifts in the mean value of the observations."
What was learned
Elsner et al. report that "major North Atlantic hurricanes have become more frequent since 1995," but at "a level reminiscent of the 1940s and 1950s." In actuality, however, they are not quite at that level yet, nor have they maintained it for as long a time. Their data indicate, for example, that the mean annual hurricane count for the 7-year period 1995-2001 was 3.86, while the mean count for the 14-year period 1948-1961 was 4.14. They also report that, "in general, twentieth-century U.S. hurricane activity shows no abrupt shifts," noting, however, that there was an exception over Florida, "where activity decreased during the early 1950s and again during the late 1960s." Last of all, they found that "El Niño events tend to suppress hurricane activity along the entire coast with the most pronounced effects over Florida."
What it means
In contradiction of the climate-alarmist claim that global warming leads to more intense hurricane activity, the results of this study clearly suggest otherwise. Not only did North Atlantic hurricane activity not increase over the entire 20th century, during which period climate alarmists say the earth experienced a temperature increase that was unprecedented over perhaps the past two millennia, hurricane activity also did not increase in response to the more sporadic warming associated with periodic El Niño conditions. In fact, it decreased.
http://www.co2science.org/articles/V7/N33/C1.php
Detection of Tornadoes
Deployment
After more than 30 years of research on operational Doppler weather radar systems, the National Weather Service (NWS) began to deploy the WSR-88D in 1988. It replaced WSR-74 and even WSR-57 units from 1974 and 1957 respectively. The first installation was completed in the Fall of 1990 in Norman, Oklahoma, however, the first installation of a WSR-88D for use in everyday forecasts was in Sterling, Virginia on June 12, 1992. The last system was installed in North Webster, Indiana on August 30, 1997. The site locations were strategically chosen to provide the most overlapping coverage between radars in case one failed during a severe weather event. Where possible, they were co-located with NWS Weather Forecast Offices to permit quicker access to maintenance technicians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEXRAD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convective_storm_detection
As you can see Tornado detection has increased very significantly
posted by
witenite3333
on August 30, 2008 at 6:18 AM
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Re: Really???
sorry to burst your bubble but the information I have from the National Weather Service says differently.
Who is right -- your source or my source? Who would you think is right?
Still you didn't answer the main question. Address the main issue.
posted by
Xeno-x
on August 22, 2008 at 8:41 AM
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Really???
This year appears set to be the coolest globally this century.
Data from the UK Met Office shows that temperatures in the first half of the year have been more than 0.1 Celsius cooler than any year since 2000.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on August 22, 2008 at 8:10 AM
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