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I do not know if I can verify the validity of this assertion that
Christians are living in more love than non-Christians. Since I did not find success in marrying a Christian man, and also suffered quite a bit with the circumstances of being unmarried in the Christian world, I feel that I am a better person since leaving the Christian community, now that I am happily married. However, I cannot take away the credit that I give to the good things I learned while listening to the multitude of teaching.
posted by
TARZANA
on November 8, 2003 at 3:51 PM
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poet-3
So what you are saying now is to not judge others by what some people who beleive as they do, are like?
Wow, I never thought of thinking like that.
If you believe that, then why did you make such a sterotypical statement?
Or does that only apply to Christian?
All others can be judge as the same kind of people?
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 8, 2003 at 3:36 PM
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Not all Christians are Christlike, but those who are Christlike are very
very good people!
posted by
MountainClimber57
on November 8, 2003 at 3:32 PM
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poet-3
That is not what I read, but I guess only you know what you meant when you wrote it.
So you are saying that all Christians are good poeple?
Funny, I've known of many Christians who abuse their families, do drugs, sleep around and have no real moral values what-so-ever.
Is that what Christ is teaching people?
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 8, 2003 at 3:24 PM
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No I did not say all people who are not Christians are bad people, but
people who are bad people are that way because of a lack of faith and love which I daily try to offer a different path by presenting them Jesus Christ and the Christian faith, for those to accept their lives are powerfully changed, for those who do not, the beat goes on.
posted by
MountainClimber57
on November 8, 2003 at 3:18 PM
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Poet 3
You did offend others by saying such a statement. I am not sure why you do not see that.
Basically you said that any and all non-christians are bad people, which is a large part of the world, and do not live happy lives. I would love to see some other translation of your comments.
I, as a non-Christian, found that very offensive, as did others form what has been stated here.
Sorry about calling you a She by the way. I tried to make as many neutral gender statements, because I did not know one way or the other.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 8, 2003 at 2:31 PM
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The Point Is...
...the Christian who made that statement lives in a magical world, where her cult, her herd, determines her "reality." Christians claim they are enlightened, etc., blah, blah, blah, but anyone who is freed of that herd can see that just the opposite is in fact the case. Christians tend to be intolerant, bigoted, ignorant, and wholly selfish. Ignore her, my friend. Walk away from the herd. You can't change them. Let them thunder off, toward the cliffs. You don't need to fight them. The cliffs will take care of them soon enough.
Shawn
posted by
ShawnMichel
on November 8, 2003 at 1:05 PM
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That's the point, you didn't offend me, nor do I offend others when I stand
up for what I believe through my writing - you are the one who said I offended millions of people with one simple sentence -- no I stood up for what I believe meaning no offense to others!
posted by
MountainClimber57
on November 8, 2003 at 10:56 AM
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Kooka & Poet: Generalities and Oversensitivity
We've come to a time in this country where it appears that a vocal minority believes that one's religious sensitivity must be displayed and touted as proof that one is a "good" christian. This results in a classic situation of "I'm Okay, You're not Okay" whereby any discordant opinion is labeled as bad and considered "attacks", or as Poet-3" responded, "a tear down."
Classifying Chirstians vs. non-Christians and comparing lifestyles in a single sentence is the heighth of simplicity and the individual that attempts to do so should be pitied, not vilified. This approach violates a most basic tenet of the Bible: "Judge not lest yea too be judged." All such generalities immediately crumble under even the slightest scrutiny, yet many will attempt to defend them in a "me-too" response. Just as badly however, the opposing school of thought will rush to be offended.
True students of the Bible will not opine and promote such simplistic categorizations of the world. I yearn for the time I spent in the church as a child when we prayed for our elected leaders and the "religious right" did not exist as an organized political sphere. Back in the day, Christions led by example - espousing faith, charity and tolerance.
posted by
Tristan57
on November 8, 2003 at 10:20 AM
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To Poet-3
I didn't think that Kookla offended anyone...just wondering how you think she did?
posted by
ginnieb
on November 8, 2003 at 10:10 AM
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And, likewise . . . .
millions of lives are changed through religious and spiritual encounters with religions other than Christianity. I do not have anything agaijnst Christians, nor do I condemn any other religion. It is the fanatical in all religions that tend to cause the problems. There is only one true religion, the one, whatever it is, that is right for you.
posted by
archiew
on November 8, 2003 at 10:09 AM
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Kooka Lives - It is alright for someone to offend millions of Christians,
and we Christians are not to say anything. If my defense of my faith offends someone, I am sorry, but I have something to defend whereas non-christians have only something or somone to tear down. By the way, I am a he and not a she, I have been in the pastoral and educational ministry for over 30 years, and I have seen hundreds of peoples lives changed through faith in Christ -- so I offer it to those who are in need of help, and if you and others are truly content with your life -- then so be it, but why should you have the right to tear us down for holding to a faith that so many millions love.
posted by
MountainClimber57
on November 8, 2003 at 9:27 AM
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Good Points
As a non-Christian, I feel the post you quoted was self-rightous and offensive, but, excusable as one would excuse a child, one without the wisdom to see what is real and what is not. Most Fanatical Christians (and fanatics of other religions as well) see very narrowly and miss a lot of what life has to offer, and they are the poorer for it.
posted by
archiew
on November 8, 2003 at 9:19 AM
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