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Re: Soul Builder
At last I find somewhere were I can comment on your ideas about the NWO! since you still have me blocked. It is difficult for anybody who has never come into contact with certain "brotherhoods" etc to acknowledge the possibility of global cooperation for political, economic and spiritual dominance. Fortunately there are more than one such movements and also movements who make it their aim to thwart such plans. Those who all strive for dominance without taking the majority of humanities welfare into account are slowly but surely digging their own graves. Fear is the greatest weapon such people have and if we succumb to that, they succeed. I see no reason to fear these people and am convinced that there are enough people who will overcome them if any such group of power-players do come into control of most of the world. It is when such people are at the very peak of their power that they become most visible and therefore easy targets. Let the good become better and the bad become worse. This way it is much clearer who are on the side of wholesomeness and who are only interested in themselves.
posted by
AardigeAfrikaner
on June 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM
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THE POINT IS HOW MANY CHRISTIANS ARE LOSERS IN RELATION TO ATHEISTS
That is, how many live in poverty -- what percentage?
I would suppose that a far greater percentage of Christians live in dire circumstances than Atheists.
Which begs the question: "How do you define, 'loser'?"
posted by
Xeno-x
on May 29, 2008 at 3:43 PM
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You're still calling me a loser just because of I'm honest about my beliefs
There is nothing at all non-offensive there. You don't know me, all you know is that I am an atheist, I am honest and open about my beliefs and that is it. So because of all of that you have labeled me a 'loser' due to your generalizations. Sorry, but that is 100% offensive, even if it is just your opinion, it is a very offensive opinion.
I've made no pre-judgment here, since it is your own words here that call me a loser. If you have a reasoning for that, and if you wish to not offend, don't call people 'losers' and then say 'Don't get offended about it, I'll explain it all later.
You've yet to give me any actual reasoning as to why I shouldn't be offended by you calling me a loser here. I am not over reacting nor am I 'emotionally out-of-control' nor do I have 'some kind of huge chip on [my] shoulder'. You called me a loser just because I am honest about my beliefs and for some reason expect me not to be offended by that.
posted by
kooka_lives
on May 28, 2008 at 12:32 PM
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Re: Well I would like to hear your explanation, please. I'm not by
Vickip; welcome aboard! Yes, I am fully aware that Atheists do not believe in, or worship, any Satan, or demons, or any other "evil spirits." For that matter, neither do I! Furthermore, I do not hold any person's religious beliefs against him. I do not care in the least whether one is a Believer, an Agnostic, or an Atheist. That is his right and priviledge, especially here in the U.S.A. As a matter of fact, I rather admire Agnostics. They may be closer to being "right" than any of the rest of us! I'v said so many times. I do, however, resent "hot heads" and those who jump to unwarranted conclusions.
Just stay tuned, and I think it will all be cleared up soon.
Thank you, sincerely, for your fine comment!
posted by
GEPRUITT
on May 27, 2008 at 8:50 PM
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Well I would like to hear your explanation, please. I'm not by
any means an Atheist, but I understand what they do and do not believe - and therefore cannot make the connection between these individuals and your term, "loser" -- unless you are being judgmental. Many morally bankrupt individuals .. (not saying you are one) ... cast unjustified aspersions on others in order to deflect attention away from their own moral deficits. One other thing, not saying you are, but I can't believe the ignorance of some who say atheists believe in Satan ... some even use the word "worship". They do not worship Satan ... they don't belive in Satan - they simply do not believe in a higher (or lower), power. Anyway, I'd love to hear why you think you were not being offensive toward atheists in your blog by blatantly calling them losers.
posted by
VictoriaP
on May 27, 2008 at 7:40 PM
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Re: Now it sounds like I have very right to be offended by this post
GREAT SCOTT!!! Kooka; it now seems that you have already pre-decided that you WILL BE offended by anything I may have to say about this subject, come Hell or High Water!
If so, then I retain the right to conclude that I am attempting to communicate with an emotionally out-of-control man with some kind of huge chip on his shoulder, and I will cease trying very quickly! I niether have the credentials, skills, inclination, nor time to continue trying to communicate with such a person. And, by the way, I will not dance for you or any other person. Understood?
posted by
GEPRUITT
on May 27, 2008 at 6:58 PM
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Soul Builder
Yes, atheists deny Satan, since he clearly a fictional character, just at the NWO is (That stands for New World Order for all those who are not caught up in the BS conspiracy theories that are out there. Although if you are looking for something that is as humorous as it gets, you can learn about the Illuminati and all that nonsense) as are Zeus, Tom Sawyer and God. You have to understand one big flaw in you incoherent rantings here. I know of not a single atheist who was taught to not believe. No one told us how to think. We figured it out for ourselves. So to try and claim it to be part of some delusionary conspiracy concept has nothing to back it up. In fact if one where to actually look at the idea of the NWO, it would make more sense for them to want everyone to believe in God and go to church and such, since that would be a better way to control the masses than to get them to not believe in organized religions.
posted by
kooka_lives
on May 27, 2008 at 5:43 PM
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Now it sounds like I have very right to be offended by this post
You are calling me and all those who an unable to believe in God or any form of a higher power 'losers' just because of our beliefs. How in the world do you see that as something that should not offend atheists? You are even admitting hat it is your honest opinion and that you are going to defend calling atheists 'losers' in your next post.
I find any such blanket statements about ANY religious groups to be offensive in general, and I am going to find such blanket statement directed towards me to be very offensive.
Seriously I am really wondering how you are going to be able to make the claim that anyone who openly expresses themselves as being a theist is a losers is not something they should be offended about being called. You next post is going to need a lot of dancing in it to try and not be offensive if it is going to keep on this idea. I promise you, I am not a loser and I take great offensive to being called such just because of my beliefs.
posted by
kooka_lives
on May 27, 2008 at 5:34 PM
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Re: NWO
Thanks, Soul, for your comment. Forgive me for my ignorance, but I do not know what you mean by "NWO" lenses. Seriously. So would you please tell me. I have never encountered the term before, and I do not wish to remain ignorant. Thanks.
And, as an addendum, I admit to extreme puzzlement over "Rev." Kooka's being offended over the 6+ lines of my most recent post!
More comments are welcomed.
posted by
GEPRUITT
on May 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM
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Atheists are all wearing the same NWO lenses they were given. They deny God. Do they deny satan? They espouse BIG BANG...only they need God's molecules to BANG with. Random molecular agglomeration to produce present existence....you have got to be a gambler! Wake up axxholes...the NWO is taking you for a ride! If you do not seek God you will not find Him. PERIOD!
posted by
Soul_Builder101
on May 27, 2008 at 12:40 PM
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Re: You said all atheists are losers. How is that not offensive?
Thanks, Kooka, for responding. And, no, my statement that "all announced Atheists are losers" was not intended as sarcasm. That statement was intended, as is each of my opinions here on this OPINION category, as a fact, in my opinion! I expect to have absolutely no difficulty at all in showing what this opinion is based on. Since I obviously already have your attention, I invite you to bear with me, and you, then, can agree or disagree. Your choice! And I will not be offended! That's it, and that's all.
posted by
GEPRUITT
on May 26, 2008 at 6:41 PM
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You said all atheists are losers. How is that not offensive?
And while I do believe it is suppose to be sarcasm, the initial hit of it feels very offensive. Any such generalized comment that labels all of one group as being 'losers', even if it is suppose to be sarcastic to make a point, does feel offensive. In fact I am wondering just how you believe that to label all atheists as losers, even if it is meant as some form of a joke or sarcasm, should not be viewed as offensive.
Do atheists lie? I won't lie here and try to claim that I never lie, although I have not lied about being sick for work since I was very young. I've never cheated on my taxes, although I have made mistakes with them that have come back to haunt me that might have looked like cheating.
I find it hard to believe that one could prejudge the term 'ALL announced Atheists are losers' as not being offensive. And I am very interested in seeing how you show this was not meant to be offensive.
posted by
kooka_lives
on May 26, 2008 at 6:04 PM
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Re: Pray for all
And that's fine, I guess. Just remember, Atheists do not want your prayers. They will not even allow Him to be an existing Being. You are wasting your breath and time! They do not want anything to do with God!
posted by
GEPRUITT
on May 26, 2008 at 4:21 PM
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Re: Wow, that was offensive
Well, unless you insist on jumping to conclusions, this post should not have been offensive at all!
I never intended to question the overall honesty of Atheists. As a matter of fact, the "would you lie about it" question was addressed to NON-Atheists, asking them to put themselves hypothetically in the postion of being an Atheist and asking THEMSELVES if THEY would lie about it! So, please do not "put words in my mouth." Thank you.
For the record, I think Atheists are as honest as a group as any other group. However, they, too, are human. It is to be expected that even a lady will often lie about her age, either a Christian lady or an Atheist lady. Do Atheists ever lie to their boss about missing work today because "I am sick." Christians do this every day. Do Atheists ever "cheat" (lie) on their income tax return? Christians do this every year. I hope this clarification helps you to understand the spirit of this post. If not, maybe you are too quick to prejudge and should take a little attitude adjustment break!
Stay with me, and I will explain more in my next post.
posted by
GEPRUITT
on May 26, 2008 at 4:12 PM
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Re: wonder the ratio of Atheists to Christians in lower income
You may be, and probably are, correct on that one, Xeno-x!
Thanks for your comment, but that is not the point of this post.
posted by
GEPRUITT
on May 26, 2008 at 3:28 PM
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wonder the ratio of Atheists to Christians in lower income
and less advantageous situations.
I have an idea Christians overwhelm Atheists in this category.
posted by
Xeno-x
on May 26, 2008 at 8:30 AM
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Wow, that was offensive
Sorry, but I don't consider myself anything close to being a looser and would love to know where you got such an idea from.
I hold honesty as being a truly important aspect of life and if you can't be honest about your beliefs, then what can you be honest about? All the atheists I personally know are the most honest people you can find and I would consider none of them to be looser in the least. Honesty is really one of the cornerstone behind the concept of atheism since you have to be truly honest with yourself to know that you cannot believe in the various religious ideas that are out there.
I ma unclear as to what you think this post is going to do, but so far you really seem to have it all wrong. Stereotyping and making such poorly conceived generalizations never help anyone's point, ever.
posted by
kooka_lives
on May 26, 2008 at 8:25 AM
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I am a Christian and I pray for all. sam
posted by
sam444
on May 26, 2008 at 7:34 AM
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