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Tonyzonit
just shows how unique we all are.. good thoughts.
posted by
mneme
on May 4, 2007 at 6:36 AM
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Thanks Bhaskar - you are very receptive to my main thrust...
as the bishop said to the actress.
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 3, 2007 at 9:44 AM
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Thanks very much, Chili!!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 3, 2007 at 9:43 AM
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Thanks Kat - I appreciate that a lot!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 3, 2007 at 9:42 AM
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Quite right too, Kabu - no-one has anything to feel guilty about.
In fact, two births is more than I could handle.
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 3, 2007 at 9:41 AM
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Well Tony, no arguments there. Firstly, it's a thought-provoking and
a serious sonnet, well-written. Bravo!
This is a good query raised on the zillions that couldn't survive, and nobody probably has a fair idea of a zillion, but it does mean innumerable. Like lottery, as you say rightly, we are the lucky ones to survive. This is one of God's chapter from His book of mystery, and it is also the law that governs the balance, and it is so intricate that it is best left ununderstood by man. Liberties taken.
posted by
Bhaskar.ing
on May 3, 2007 at 8:39 AM
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Tony...Excellent post!
posted by
Chilitree
on May 3, 2007 at 2:02 AM
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Tony
Your post gives me much to think about, and was very well written
posted by
Kat02
on May 3, 2007 at 1:59 AM
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Tony
I refuse to lose sleep over the fact that two births were my limit.
posted by
Kabu
on May 2, 2007 at 10:27 PM
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Yes indeed, Lustorlove! Imagine giving birth to them all. Phew!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 10:02 PM
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tony
well lets be thankful not all of them made it to the end of the trip
posted by
Lanetay
on May 2, 2007 at 8:21 PM
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Hi OTA - no we definitely would NOT!
Unless, of course, more planets had been created in our solar system, near us, that could support life. We'd need many thousands of planets to provide enough room for all of them, I suspect! So maybe it's all for the best - nature always knows best!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 4:36 PM
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Hi Neil
Sorry for slight delay - was emailing. Well, to your first comment - exactly. That's the kind of thing I'm saying. It's not just being born or not being born, it's also being born in the right or the wrong place and time that determines so much. Women even to this day are denied the chance to fulfil their potential. And as for animals, they have similar problems to us, but I would say it's much tougher for them because they are stupider and don't have concepts such as justice - only group solidarity at best. Because they are stupider, they are often nasty by human standards. They will attack smaller animals for the hell of it, whereas normally we won't. Also, of course, apart from lucky pets and expensive racehorses, most animals don't have access to decent medical care. But at least they don't worry as much as we do (because they are stupider) so they just exist in a zenlike way instead of fretting about silly invented issues like we all do. I'll reply to any more thoughts you may have tomorrow, Neil - it's past my bedtime, unfortunately.
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 4:33 PM
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thats alot of folks Tony.. ya think we would have room for all of them?
posted by
Blue_feathers
on May 2, 2007 at 4:23 PM
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I really would like your thoughts on how it is w/ animals. Tougher? Odds?
--some like cucurachas and rabbits have quite a reputation. But the magic of conception and birth --I'm detouring to the male seahorses which are the ones that actually get pregnant as an interesting variance -- remain fascinating. Who sees their first child, if hale and hearty too, does not thank God/Creator/Miraculous Maker?
posted by
ILLUMINATI8
on May 2, 2007 at 4:01 PM
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Yr larger point re LUCK (luck of the draw? how well u pour?) is superb
For instance, there are many revolutionaries (Mexican and African) who missed their chance to be known, or the poor math wizard who is known only to his tribe as a grand surveyor and dsipute-settler. Or the greatest women l;eaders born in the 1600s, 1700s when they were less able to access publci space. I always enjoy your philosophical & cultural forays. shalom and Viva Ova and ovum and all this um...ums
posted by
ILLUMINATI8
on May 2, 2007 at 3:58 PM
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Hi Neil - I make no comment about anything being done wrong, Neil -
It's just really an acknowledgment of all the zillions of might-have-beens who were never even born. It's always a thought that has fascinated me. Lovely tree - the jacaranda. Sounds like some Latin American dance or song, like the Cucuracha. Or a cool refreshing cocktail.
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 3:56 PM
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Yes, Neil - Viva Spermatozoa!
You old Mexican revolutionary, you!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 3:53 PM
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Tony, glad for this one.I think of this to.Persuaded by Gandhi to observe
chastity even in marriage. We are so wasteful...and now people who have more babies than is politically correct, we joke so about them, they feel they have done something bad. We waste natural resources and our sexual resources and potential ...BUT HOW DO THE ANIMALS COPE ? BETTER? I am not sure it is as it may appear in the wild. shalom&jacaranda
posted by
ILLUMINATI8
on May 2, 2007 at 3:52 PM
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Truly felt and conveyed, Bard Tony. Viva (spermatazoa)
posted by
ILLUMINATI8
on May 2, 2007 at 3:49 PM
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Really? Well, there's Audenshaw reservoir, I think.
There's one a few miles east as well, called Ladybower - that's pretty, surrounded by hills. Offy and you can have some by the way - there's plenty to go round!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 3:46 PM
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Tony (but don't tell Offy)
OMG, yes! But don't tell Offy, okay? Nah, I"ll bring her back some. Or no, wait, I'll pick her up in Ohio in Anthony's plane. Yes, that's it! Know what? My Dad had a home in Manchester and I remember visiting the reservoir there, what's it called?
posted by
FoliageGold
on May 2, 2007 at 3:42 PM
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Look for Manchester on the map of England, Mary!
The latest selection, all healthy dark chocolate, is 1. 85% cocoa (plain flavour). 2. Orange flavour. 3. Mint flavour. 4. Coffee flavour (my favourite). It's made in Belgium or somewhere like that - pure quality. It lightens up our afternoons considerably! Are you interested in joining the gang?
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 3:38 PM
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Hello there Star- whoosh... and Star has shot off into the distance.
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 3:36 PM
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Tony
Oh, all right, I'll open the bag and let you choose your own. Chocolate? Did you say chocolate? Where do you work? I'll be there tomorrow!
posted by
FoliageGold
on May 2, 2007 at 3:35 PM
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take care
posted by
star4sky5
on May 2, 2007 at 3:32 PM
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Thanks Enigmatic - very kind of you. I love the choices of emoticon, too!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 3:30 PM
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Just one, Mary?
My speciality at work is dispensing chocolate, particularly to the women. You'd probably enjoy it there!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 3:28 PM
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Tony
You achieved a rare combination (nowadays) here - intelligence, plus sadness, plus beauty - in a poem!
posted by
Enigmatic68
on May 2, 2007 at 3:28 PM
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Hi Eddie - that's really good that I raised a smile.
I hope all goes well for you with this beautiful woman, and I hope you manage to get your book done in time. I've got plans at the moment for a couple of books. Life is going to be hectic what with all that writing and posting these sonnets. But it's the only way, isn't it? Writing requires writing!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 3:27 PM
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Tony
Blame? Are you paranoid? lol Here have a chocolate chip cookie on me.
posted by
FoliageGold
on May 2, 2007 at 3:25 PM
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Hi Mary - well, like you, I'm glad that WE lived and not them!
Even if that is selfish. Besides, there was nothing we could do about it. We're not to blame!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 3:24 PM
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Thanks, Chris - it's all about what might have been, I suppose!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 3:22 PM
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Thanks, Snubnose - kind of you!!!
posted by
Antonionioni
on May 2, 2007 at 3:21 PM
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Hey Tony
Hey Tony. It's Eddie. Your sonnet really made me laugh. I needed that, I was having a bad day and doing everything I could just to care for myself and when I read poem I instantly brightened up. Sometimes, because I lived so much pain I think and feel too tragic but your poem was a breath of fresh air and I loved it. Anyhow, I will try to keep posting on blogit more regularly, but I met a beautiful woman who I have high hopes for in my life and I am very excited about it and I have also been working hardcore on my book which I hop eto have ready for publication by the time I go to England. Anyhow, great poem! Peace.
posted by
AceGemini
on May 2, 2007 at 2:07 PM
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Tony
BRAVA! Gosh, no offence, but if they'd all lived we wouldn't be here now! What a concept. Yes, I hit the jackpot with my darling girls.
posted by
FoliageGold
on May 2, 2007 at 1:51 PM
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Tony-well written! Your Sonnett realy makes me think! Chris.
posted by
Scramble
on May 2, 2007 at 1:41 PM
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Tony
great and thoughtful sonnet.
posted by
snubnose
on May 2, 2007 at 11:50 AM
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