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Our embroilment in this fiasco, Camareye, was completely avoidable, and
we are reaping the consequences of failing to assess the situation correctly. In fact, the entire region is reaping the repercussive consequences of trying to create a democracy from an ethnicly divided nation. Look at what's going on in Lebanon. In Gaza. There is increased military activity in Afghanistan. Pakistan takes American assistance money and does absolutely nothing but train America-hating children in madrassahs. We entered World War III decades ago and didn't even realize it until 9/11. Like with Sputnik, America has been forced to play catch-up to its enemies again. Only this time, the enemy doesn't play by any set of rules we understand.
No, Camaraeye, this war -- the war on terrorism, not terror -- will only be won one limited engagement at a time, because that is where the battles are, not centralized in a country like Iraq. That's just good ole Bush administration propaganda. The United States needs to extricate itself from this debacle, redeploy, and hit the terrorists like they should've been doing for years -- swiftly, surgically, and unmercifully. Iraq has become a rallying cry for the region (and parts of Muslim states and communities around the world) as Afghanistan did when the tide turned against the Russians.
Look at it like this: We left Vietnam and we've done fine. Iraq will be the same. The difference is there will still be terrorists, whether we remain in Iraq or not. If we were fighting all the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan, like the Bush administration wants everyone to believe with thier verbal misdirections, how come so many of them are being arrested in Western nations?
posted by
saul_relative
on May 21, 2007 at 9:42 PM
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saul relative
I wish there were a simple way to pull out of Iraq. I wonder if there have been studies to determine how that would effect the USA. We seem to want the endand disregard the middle and the pain and the sacrifice already gone by. If we withdraw what will the next war be? Will we have enough volunteers to protect us and who will decide what we need to be protected from? Why would anyone fight knowing that the general public will get tired of the war and desert the fighting men and women? Do we have any leaders, statesmen, International scholars? Must we work though committees, bodies of politicians who only want to foster their careers and be politically correct.
I remember 911 and I fear someone hitting our homes with targed missiles and have strange looking people come into my home, school, church and demand my life. Hey it can be a strange new world. We better stick together, lets encourage victory, lets be positive in supporting our troops, lets see the recovery efforts and the successes in Iraq. The liberal press, the Clinton Network, and the Democratic Party in the US will go to any extreme to tear down the status quo and in this case a Republician. The republican in question has moral stamina and will stand up with respect for his decisions and will not change with the wind to be popular. I wonder what Al Gore would have done on 911? I wonder why Mr. Clinton was not minding the store. He was visiting places of comfort. He ingored the Inernational situation as best I can remember.
I hate war, but we have to look a little past our noses. Sorry to be letting it all hang out, but we need to look at past history and pull our heads out the the sand and look around. Maybe the governmentw will withdraw, but it will be a sad day for our country and a happy day for our enemies.
Lou
posted by
Cameraeye
on May 21, 2007 at 7:20 PM
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True, johnmacnab. But, then, we may not have to worry about it, since
we're busy trying to choke ourselves to death with all the particles within the atmosphere (some unmarked but "made in China")...
posted by
saul_relative
on May 13, 2007 at 10:04 AM
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That's practically next door, saul_relative. The problem will be whether we can escape from earth what with all the clouds of man made particles ( some stamped 'Made in China,') that circle in orbit.
posted by
johnmacnab
on May 13, 2007 at 4:26 AM
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Note to self: remember to take microwave for long trip...
posted by
saul_relative
on May 12, 2007 at 10:18 AM
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The cheeseburgers may be cold before we get there...
posted by
teddypoet_TheGoodByeFade
on May 12, 2007 at 7:55 AM
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Psychologically, food4thought, they believe that that may be the biggest
problem with star travel -- the boredom...
posted by
saul_relative
on April 29, 2007 at 9:53 PM
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In outer space, SW, no one can hear your horn...
posted by
saul_relative
on April 29, 2007 at 9:52 PM
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Where's the Enterprise when you really need her, eh, smartdog?
posted by
saul_relative
on April 29, 2007 at 9:50 PM
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I can't wait till we blast off...
That's a whole lot of light years of me yelling, "are we there yet?"
posted by
food4thought
on April 29, 2007 at 9:26 PM
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That would be one heck of a commute
posted by
SuccessWarrior
on April 29, 2007 at 8:57 AM
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Saul
But that's only twenty light years! Now, if we could only travel that fast.
Be well,
-smartdog
posted by
smartdog_670
on April 29, 2007 at 8:03 AM
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