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Re: 4Bare
I agree. The child is a product of the two that remains the two forever. They owe it to the child to respect that; in so doing they just may learn to respect one another.

posted by Justi on April 30, 2007 at 1:55 PM | link to this | reply

For the Sake of Ireland
I agree! Parents need to put aside their own ego for the sake of a child. Children do not ask for their parents to divorce! They are innocent victims.

posted by 4Bare on April 30, 2007 at 12:50 PM | link to this | reply

richinstore
Thanks for reading me.

posted by Justi on April 28, 2007 at 9:00 PM | link to this | reply

justi
thanks for sharing

posted by richinstore on April 28, 2007 at 8:12 PM | link to this | reply

Re: littleemspickles
I agree. It does not mean you don't correct them. But they are human beings just little ones and they need care and nurturing in the correction. I am glad you are a teacher. I can read the care you have for those children in your writing.

posted by Justi on April 28, 2007 at 7:52 PM | link to this | reply

posted by Amanda__ on April 28, 2007 at 2:03 PM | link to this | reply

i agree - no matter what a child does
as a parent you are the responsible, mature one - name calling is not the way to sort out a problem!

posted by littlemspickles on April 28, 2007 at 1:35 PM | link to this | reply

Proc
Because of their high profile actors often make something good or bad because they support it. That does not make the issue the way they present it. All people should take them with a grain of salt. They make their livings, and I must say very good ones, pretending. What can we really expect of them? I am not sure. 

posted by Justi on April 28, 2007 at 10:38 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Maggie Mae..............
Thank you dear one. Yes I know many, many who have gone through so very much and lived to do better than their parents did. I do hope exposure helps him rather than have it swept under the rug. You be blessed dear lady and have a great week-end. It does not hurt to make demands, discipline your children and guide them. I have a problem with name calling.

posted by Justi on April 28, 2007 at 10:33 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Bhaskar.ing
Thank you for your comment.

posted by Justi on April 28, 2007 at 10:30 AM | link to this | reply

Justi,you have written a very thought-provoking post.
When I read about celebrities I usually just brush them off as being slighly off.  I didn't really think deeply about the child involved.  Its very sad for her as her parents bad relationship is being played out in front of the world.  The poor kid.

posted by proc on April 28, 2007 at 9:21 AM | link to this | reply

Justi, it's wrong, but..............

We've all been hollered at and scolded.   There's nothing right about it, but we sucked it up and went on our way.  We turned out alright in spite of it.  We tolerated the verbal abuse and, some, the  physical abuse.  At least she didn't, as far as we know, have to endure any of that.

For sure, mommy and daddy need to get it together and learn to be civil when addressing the child.  What makes Alec Baldwin's child any different than anybody else's?  Answer is, both her parents are celebrities.  So what?  The fact is, the child will survive it. He has been embarrassed and hopefully, Daddy has learned a big lesson from it.  

Justi, there are children out there who have endured so much more.  You know that and I know it and his being busted may make a difference.  I think Alec Baldwin's frustration at his wife may have pushed him over the edge and he blew.  I hope he may be able to catch himself the next time before he does it.  Let's hope so.

God bless and enjoy your weekend.  

posted by MaggieMae on April 28, 2007 at 8:30 AM | link to this | reply

Justi I am perfectly with you and agree that it's sad and bad for the child

posted by Bhaskar.ing on April 28, 2007 at 5:27 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Enigmatic68
Only they know what went on between them; however, the child should be the focal point and reason from the both for her. She probably has learned to play them against each othere with a high degree of success. I am sorry such things happen.

posted by Justi on April 28, 2007 at 12:47 AM | link to this | reply

Re: TIMMYTALES
I agree. His apology sounded like he was making it all about himself. It is about the child.

posted by Justi on April 28, 2007 at 12:45 AM | link to this | reply

Justi
Tragic irony - Kim Basinger has won an Oscar for her acting, yet most people seem to "buy" Mr. "I am God" Baldwin's performance - however, as usual, it is the child who is the main victim - the child who is suffering the most.

posted by Enigmatic68 on April 27, 2007 at 10:36 PM | link to this | reply

justi
I agree.......call it what it is......abuse!

posted by TIMMYTALES on April 27, 2007 at 9:03 PM | link to this | reply

Mary
Be blessed

posted by Justi on April 27, 2007 at 2:32 PM | link to this | reply

Just
I hear you.  --Joy!Mary 

posted by FoliageGold on April 27, 2007 at 1:22 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Cagey
I think you have hit the nail on the head, children are bring up children.

posted by Justi on April 27, 2007 at 1:14 PM | link to this | reply

Re:Mary
I am not sure how she will turn out but not good I am afraid.

posted by Justi on April 27, 2007 at 1:13 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Taps
I see where you are coming from. Son #3 is caring for the hardest situation in the family. This would appear to be evidence he is a good father. He is not just an angry person, is he? I do realize that so many dads are getting a horrible deal in divorce and custody. But it has to be the adults who decide to be humane. Alec Baldwin has a reputation of being an angry and ugly man. This is his child! I think it is extreme. I feel for all those men who have been treated unfairly by ex wives because there are many. I still think this is inexcusible verbal abuse. 

posted by Justi on April 27, 2007 at 1:12 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Pat B,
I agree with you with the exception that I think it should have been broadcast. The child needs to be validated. People should have dispised his behavior and him unless he gets treatment.

posted by Justi on April 27, 2007 at 1:07 PM | link to this | reply

Justi
Yes, it is abusive and should never happen.  I've following this through the blogs as it's not really on the radar up here on our news.  I feel very sad for this child.  --Joy!Mary 

posted by FoliageGold on April 27, 2007 at 12:45 PM | link to this | reply

Justi
I can fully understand his frustration in this on-going child-custody battle.  The experience of Son #3 was much as Alec Baldwin described on the view today.  In Son's case, his wife ended up with three of the children and Son only has custody of his mentally retarded son who was not wanted by my DIL.  Whenever it was his time with the other three, his ex-wife would spirit them away somewhere and hide them from him.  They went to court over and over.   In his opinion, his son's were brainwashed against him and he became every bit as frustrated as Alec Baldwin.   This happens to fathers way too often.  I have no way of knowing if son ever responded to his sons in a derogatory way.  I would imagine since he is human, that it is entirely possible.  But, that does not make it right.   And, it does not help the father/child relationship. 

posted by TAPS. on April 27, 2007 at 12:04 PM | link to this | reply

at times i feel children are bringing up children.

posted by Cagey on April 27, 2007 at 10:36 AM | link to this | reply

Many of us grew up in a climate of verbal and physical abuse,
and it took decades to forgive or understand the stresses that made our parents what they were. You'd think things would have improved a bit as sociologists and family therapists work with people and the consequences of this is broadcast all the time on TV - but it seems the same as 50 years ago, except it's in our faces on the telly all the time. The Baldwin phone call should not have happened. Worse, it shouldn't have been broadcast. The gossip vultures who did are bloodsuckers of the worst stripe. 

posted by Pat_B on April 27, 2007 at 9:37 AM | link to this | reply

David 1 Spirit
Thank you so much. It concerns me that so many take this lightly only because the mother may have leaked it.

posted by Justi on April 27, 2007 at 9:20 AM | link to this | reply

Right on the money
He shouldn't drag some kid into this anyways; let alone using the terms that he did.

posted by David1Spirit on April 27, 2007 at 9:15 AM | link to this | reply