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This is a good account of the lead up to King Phllips War Xeno but

it has no bearing on the first Thanksgiving other than show the ill-will harbored by a younger Indian generation that broke old alliances their forefathers had made.  I'm sure we will see the same thing arise in Iraq after whatever fleeting peace we will reach is arrived at.

For the record - I am glad America was settled and became the best last hope for the world.  There are winners and losers in every struggle that mean anything in this world.  The indigious people unarguably got the short end of the stick but the United States and Canada wouldn't be what they are today otherwise.  Too many people are afariad to admit that.  Even here in Nashville, home of Andrew Jackson, they tip toe around his role in the trail of tears.

posted by FreeManWalking on November 28, 2006 at 5:20 AM | link to this | reply

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posted by Xeno-x on November 27, 2006 at 3:11 PM | link to this | reply

here -- what the Pilgrims did afterward
"Located on a peninsula between Narragansett and Mount Hope Bays, Bristol was the site of the first battle of King Philip's War in 1675. This was an uprising by Wampanoag Indians, against settlers who "bought" land from King Philip's late father, Sachem Massasoit. Massasoit was born in the village of Pokanoket near present-day Bristol, around 1590. Also known as Ousamequin, or "yellow feather" he was a chief of the Wampanoag tribe, or "People of the First Light", so-named because they lived in the east. Massasoit signed a peace treaty with the Pilgrims on March 22, 1621. It was an agreement never broken and the two groups enjoyed peaceful coexistence. His friendship with the settlers helped keep the Wampanoags neutral in the Pequot War of 1636. Massasoit remained an ally of the Pilgrims until his death in 1661.

When King Philip, eldest son of Massasoit, realized the Pilgrims were intent on taking all Wampanoag lands, he led a unified force of the Wampanoag, Nipmuc, Narragansett, and Pequot to "push the English back into the sea." He made Mount Hope his headquarters and the rocky ledge known as "King Philip's chair" where he watched for enemy ships on Mount Hope Bay, is still a popular visitors' location today. As a result of the war, Plymouth Colony in Massachusetts retained control of Bristol lands until releasing them in 1747. Although Philip was defeated his tribal name, Metacomet, lives on here.

The town of Bristol was founded in 1680 and is on the National Historic Register. In June, 1772, a British customs schooner, the Gaspee, ran aground in Narragansett Bay. Colonists rowed out to the schooner and attacked it, setting the British crew ashore before burning the ship. A reward of 500 £ was offered by the Crown for apprehension of these colonists. Later, the naval base at Newport was captured by the British on December 6, 1776."

from http://www.bristolharborinn.com/History_Bristol.cfm

and "Massasoit (1580?-1661), Native American chief of the Wampanoag who governed the greater part of what is now Massachusetts and Rhode Island. Shortly after the arrival of the Pilgrims in America, Massasoit and Governor John Carver of Plymouth Colony signed the earliest recorded treaty in New England. The treaty established a mutual peace between Massasoit's people and the Pilgrims. In 1621 the Pilgrims invited Massasoit and some of his people to a thanksgiving celebration. The traditional American Thanksgiving holiday traces its roots to this occasion.

Massasoit's eldest son, Wamsutta, became sachem, or chief, upon his father's death in 1661. Peace with the Pilgrims lasted until Wamsutta was succeeded by his brother Philip, also called Metacomet. Philip formally renewed the treaties established by his father, but in 1675, after the Pilgrims had made increasing demands for Native American land, Philip led an uprising against the settlers in a conflict now referred to as King Philip's War."

posted by Xeno-x on November 27, 2006 at 3:08 PM | link to this | reply

who's howard zinn

posted by Xeno-x on November 23, 2006 at 7:24 AM | link to this | reply

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