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Cee

So true. And, they keep us silent in the midst of turmoil.

posted by avant-garde on September 1, 2006 at 6:42 AM | link to this | reply

nonconformist

Yea, I would say that the world is sustained on denial and dependency, which is the antithesis of truth.

posted by avant-garde on September 1, 2006 at 6:41 AM | link to this | reply

appleworks

You are correct in pointing out that interdependency is an intricate part of physicality. However, having said that, it must also be pointed out that psychological dependency is a result of the belief that we lack certain inherent things; and, through having them our needs are met and a permanent state is achieved.

Can an individual meet his physical needs while realizing that no one or nothing can provide his peace of mind and happiness? Can he absolve others from their responsibility for him, while at the same time showing gratitude for what is given? Surely, there is a gift beyond measure when one realizes that he alone is responsible for the choices that are made, and the consequences that flow from them.

posted by avant-garde on September 1, 2006 at 6:40 AM | link to this | reply

avant-

Coming to you in the middle of brain fog, but your blog reminded me of the "doc's" who used to blog here until recently. I'm also reminded of that song that goes, "Oh Lord, it's hard to be humble (when you're perfect in every way.)" [The song] Not stated quite so esoterically, but that's the way with truths. They keep us humble. And that is becoming a rarity these days.
Cee

posted by LadyCeeMarie on August 31, 2006 at 8:01 PM | link to this | reply

I very often think that many, many of the worlds problems, both great and small, would not exist if we all had to always speak the truth. So many evil things are tied up with deception! I know that this is totaly unrealistic, but it bears thinking about. We all know how easy it can be to tell a lie when the truth might be much less palatable, but then maybe better to say nothing at all. Surely it sometimes depends upon the situation? Introspection is never easy.

posted by nonconformist on August 31, 2006 at 1:02 PM | link to this | reply

avant

in your last reply you say that depending on others is what creates confusion and suffering. i know of no one who is independant as able to live off land, and even then there is dependance on air, water, food. this world is now as a people totally dependant, with money it can work no other way. spiritual truths can remove yourself but everyone steps back into the world. it seems with so much of this, knowing or understanding the problem never changes what is.

posted by appleworks7 on August 31, 2006 at 8:43 AM | link to this | reply

Moon

Exactly. Not everyone is ready for the truth. Who wants to hear that depending on others creates the confusion and suffering in life?

posted by avant-garde on August 31, 2006 at 1:14 AM | link to this | reply

appleworks

You are right again. Explaining an observation produces clarity. It is up to the individual to choose to look.

posted by avant-garde on August 31, 2006 at 1:13 AM | link to this | reply

appleworks

Yes, being 'wrong' is invaluable to discovering the end. If we felt right about everything, would we not spend all our time vaunting ourselves instead of listening?

posted by avant-garde on August 31, 2006 at 1:12 AM | link to this | reply

Blanche

Oneself, where the truth lies.

posted by avant-garde on August 31, 2006 at 1:11 AM | link to this | reply

appleworks

A societal outcast.

posted by avant-garde on August 31, 2006 at 1:10 AM | link to this | reply

YPunday

Nice gecko. It is unfortunate that honesty is not rewarded in today's society more than it is.

posted by avant-garde on August 31, 2006 at 1:10 AM | link to this | reply

Leahdgirl

Thank you for visiting.

posted by avant-garde on August 31, 2006 at 1:09 AM | link to this | reply

SYMPHONY

Good to see you again, too.

posted by avant-garde on August 31, 2006 at 1:09 AM | link to this | reply

Jaz

Thanks.

posted by avant-garde on August 31, 2006 at 1:07 AM | link to this | reply

Telling the truth is foundational in every spiritual tradition; it is one of however many pillars: non-violence, love, peace, truth.....others......and these traditions teach that it is synonomous with love, synonomous with God......yet, we find that it takes the utmost courage to be truthful.....so strange, so strange. Great post Avant. MoonSpirit

posted by syzygy on August 30, 2006 at 6:58 PM | link to this | reply

avant

Being wrong is the measure of a means that creates its own end.

if i understand this right then being wrong can be a drive or steppingstone to see the end. i can think of situations where explaining truth, not as you have, can dismantle all uncertainty and doubt.even if it is the same truth i believe it can work other ways.

posted by appleworks7 on August 30, 2006 at 6:12 PM | link to this | reply

Avant-Garde,

My self-acceptance depends on working out for myself where the truth lies, in the hidden depths of the inner spirit. Strip away the need for acceptance from others, what is anyone left with?

posted by Blanche. on August 30, 2006 at 6:02 PM | link to this | reply

avant

what does the word pariah mean?

posted by appleworks7 on August 30, 2006 at 5:29 PM | link to this | reply

Unusual topic only because it's easier to shy away.I wanted to say "hide" &

thought I may lose a few freinds.....MYSTERIA said they have to shut up at work because her lady boss knows everything, yes EVERYTHING! She even completes their thoughts, problems, solutions, dreams......so workers keep their---paycheck & facts, opinions...until they come home to Blogit. Here's to that--BANZAI! (even geckos may celebrate with us)

posted by ILLUMINATI8 on August 30, 2006 at 3:31 PM | link to this | reply

The truth shall set you free........

Great post on the pain and freedom that come with honesty.

posted by LeahdGirl on August 30, 2006 at 3:14 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks for sharing...I have missed your words of wisdom

posted by _Symphony_ on August 30, 2006 at 2:19 PM | link to this | reply

A-G--- I agree if "being wrong" really isn't about wrong or right, but

about being true to one's own truths.

posted by Jazwolf on August 30, 2006 at 1:24 PM | link to this | reply

Tanga

You're very kind, as well. Thank you.

posted by avant-garde on August 30, 2006 at 1:12 PM | link to this | reply

I must agree with Offbeats

posted by Tanga on August 30, 2006 at 12:56 PM | link to this | reply

OFFBEATS

You're very kind. I hope your ordeal with your family has smoothed over.

posted by avant-garde on August 30, 2006 at 12:55 PM | link to this | reply

avant

Your one of the wisest people I have ever had the pleasure to read!

posted by Offy on August 30, 2006 at 12:53 PM | link to this | reply

Rumored

It's a hard thing to reckon with, if your intent is to gain solely for yourself.

posted by avant-garde on August 30, 2006 at 12:51 PM | link to this | reply

Azur

You have made a great statement here. Thank you.

posted by avant-garde on August 30, 2006 at 12:50 PM | link to this | reply

Cee

Indeed, you are right. Anything less creates a lack of love and trust.

posted by avant-garde on August 30, 2006 at 12:50 PM | link to this | reply

Mason

Thanks!

posted by avant-garde on August 30, 2006 at 12:49 PM | link to this | reply

TAPS

I sent you an email to clarify.

posted by avant-garde on August 30, 2006 at 12:49 PM | link to this | reply

Wiley

You have accomplished what many come here to do.

posted by avant-garde on August 30, 2006 at 12:49 PM | link to this | reply

Dave

Thank you, sir. Good to see you again.

posted by avant-garde on August 30, 2006 at 12:48 PM | link to this | reply

avant-...there's nothing whatsoever wrong with the truth that I'm aware of

but it almost seems like a thing of the past.."That old tv program "To Tell the Truth" wouldn't fly in this day..

posted by Rumor on August 30, 2006 at 10:51 AM | link to this | reply

It is better when we know that

self acceptance has nothing to do with what others think of us. I think it is better to acknowledge there are differences rather than to giving energy to making everything work with everyone or trying to deny there are differences.

posted by Azur on August 30, 2006 at 10:14 AM | link to this | reply

Avant-

Avant - the internet is messing with me today. This is my 4th attempt to post a comment. One must love oneself first before capable of loving another being. Trust is always imperative and understood when one has truly given their heart to another.
Cee

posted by LadyCeeMarie on August 30, 2006 at 8:53 AM | link to this | reply