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I'll check it out.
posted by
arGee
on July 20, 2006 at 4:16 PM
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arGee - I updated the blog template with the new navigation bar
and posted it
HERE
posted by
gomedome
on July 20, 2006 at 12:32 PM
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OK – here it is...
Check out
The Iapetus Mystery. Then tell me I need to think outside the box!
posted by
arGee
on July 20, 2006 at 9:44 AM
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That's a low blow, Ariala...
I know you read my article Why I Believe – And What, so I know that you really understand that I occupy no box. You could say that I am the guy who defined thinking outside the box.
What I was trying to tell you is that there are some things and some paths that are a waste of time, like Perpetual Motion and auroras. I have examined some of the most bizarre notions from a traditional scientific view, but always underscored with the totality of scientific knowledge we have gained thus far. This leaves auroras in the dust heap of discarded ideas, along with phlogiston and lead-to-gold chemistry.
In a few minutes I will post another Science 101 article that will blow your mind with its possibilities. Come back in a few minutes and check it out.
posted by
arGee
on July 20, 2006 at 9:36 AM
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argee, and there is plenty the scientific community can't explain. I
once again recommend you check out Energy Medicine and open your mind to other possibilities besides only that which science tells you you should believe. Some things are not in the realm of proof, at least not yet. And I am not interested in proving anything to the organization or to you. I just think you need to think outside your little scientific box and allow yourself room to breath, explore, investigate and dream. Look at the possibilities, not the limitations.
posted by
Ariala
on July 20, 2006 at 9:15 AM
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Ariala...intellectual honesty requires...
That all opinions be backed up with the underlying facts upon which the opinions are formed. Just because you disagree with me about auroras says nothing about their reality. I am not the one saying that auroras are scientific nonsense, this is the collective opinion of the entire legitimate scientific community.
Now, I fully understand that this collective opinion has been totally wrong from time to time. Near the end of the 19th century Rutherford commented that we had essentially learned all there was to learn about physics, and that all that remained was some minor cleaning up of a few small remaining items. Shortly thereafter, Einstein published his Special Theory of Relativity ("theory" is used in the scientific sense here), and Plank published the Quanatum Theory. So I don't get too excited about the collective opinion of the scientific community.
Nevertheless, in this case, there is overwhelming evidence that "auroras" are a figment of new-age pseudoscience. I think I mentioned this before, but James Randi has a cool million dollars waiting for you if you can prove that auroras exist. If you really are so certain, contact one of the so-called researchers who believe they have such proof, and cut a deal to split Randi's million.
posted by
arGee
on July 20, 2006 at 9:12 AM
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arGee, I totally disagree with you on auras. I suggest you check out the
book Energy Medicine. I can't recall the author. I'm not home at the moment.
posted by
Ariala
on July 20, 2006 at 8:48 AM
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Of course I agree with you, Ariala, but...
The knowledge we have gained thus far in our quest for truth cannot be ignored when we look into additional areas of research. Here is a trite, but realistic, example of what I mean. What we have learned about physics, and especially the Second Law of Thermodynamics, we can state with definitive certainty that a so-called "perpetual motion machine" is an impossibility. Spending any effort in this direction is nonscientific nonsense.
For reasons that are similar, we can definitively state that so-called "auras" supposedly possessed by human beings are scientific nonsense. Because of this, following avenues suggested by the "existence" of these "auras" is also scientific nonsense, and a complete waste of time – just like discussing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, as natural philosophers did several hundred years ago.
I'm all for investigating the unknown; I just want to be effective.
posted by
arGee
on July 20, 2006 at 8:45 AM
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argee, there is much in the world and the universe where proof doesn't
yet exist. This doesn't mean we stop investigating and looking at what evidence DOES exist.
The Butterfly, Ariala (no cockroach here, LOL)
posted by
Ariala
on July 20, 2006 at 8:19 AM
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You definitely have a turn of phrase, Ariala...
BTW..."Crystal Kids" is supposed to be the "next generation" beyond Indigo Children. I don't quite understand how their "auras" work, but they are supposed to be super Indigo babies.
You know, of course, that there isn't one scrap of evidence for the existence of any of these whatevers? In fact, serious scientists have serious questions about the existence of ADHD and ADD as anything more than a special name for a bright, active child. Had I been borne in today's world, I would have been so classified – and I came out fairly well, as these things are measured.
posted by
arGee
on July 20, 2006 at 8:03 AM
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I have some additional thoughts for you
here
posted by
Ariala
on July 20, 2006 at 7:39 AM
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