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Xeno....
Please look at the polls....they run 2 to 1 against Gay Marriage....you enjoy throwing around the Christian label as an insult......
I usually refrain from discussing religion.......but I'll give it a go, my personal view......
Christianity stands for freedom, we don't want to impose our religion on everyone else. We just don't want secular humanist values or homosexual values to be forced upon us under the guise of anti-harassment laws, speech codes, hate crime laws, or sensitivity training.
We want to be free to think and express our views in the public arena or anywhere we want to. We want to be free to practice our religion with impunity because that was central to our founding in this country.
We will accord you the exact same rights, whoever you are. You have the right to freedom of worship, but we just want a level playing field. We don't want to be singled out, discriminated against, or treated without tolerance by those for whom tolerance is the highest virtue."
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 8, 2006 at 11:26 AM
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Corbin, that is very good. He really packs a lot into a sentence, eh?
Thanks for sharing!
posted by
JanesOpinion
on July 8, 2006 at 11:17 AM
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Janes....
"For the anointed, traditions are likely to be seen as the dead hand of the past, relics of a less enlightened age, and not as the distilled experience of millions who faced similar human vicissitudes before." -- Thomas Sowell
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 8, 2006 at 11:12 AM
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Xenox, the mainstream polls still show a preference
for marriage to be between a man and a woman. I believe in the gay/rainbow type polls show that, unless they've manipulated in such a way as to affect the statistics.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on July 8, 2006 at 11:05 AM
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the so-called "will of the people" is biased.
slavery was the will of the people at one time
and so was segregation,.
but we really don't have the true will of the people
I'll have to check out some polls, but I am sure that the majority of the people don't have a problem with gay marriage
we find several mainline Christian denominations accepting this.
and I've mentioned the subject myself.
what this is is in total contrast to theintent of the writers of the Bill of Rights. They wanted to protect rights. These ":marriage protection" amendments want to take away rights.
part of that "they came for" passage -- was "they came for the homosexuals, but I said nothing".
one person's rights are everybody's rights, but you don't seem to understand that.
posted by
Xeno-x
on July 8, 2006 at 10:45 AM
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Nautikos, well said, for sure.
I believe the alternative is called judicial tyranny?
posted by
JanesOpinion
on July 8, 2006 at 10:36 AM
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Jane,
Howard Dean's flip-flop doesn't surprise me, but I am certainly glad to see a court that defers to the legislature instead of 'making law' based on its interpretation of the Constitution, or, as in our case, the Canadian Charter!
posted by
Nautikos
on July 8, 2006 at 7:40 AM
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Yup Justi. Me speak with forked tongue. Me a doctor but me really
very clueless.
posted by
JanesOpinion
on July 7, 2006 at 8:55 PM
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Amen Corbin! The liberal judiciary seems a wee bit confused as to
what their role is in government, eh?
posted by
JanesOpinion
on July 7, 2006 at 8:55 PM
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sarooster, one would hope that it is defined by the legislature along with
THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE! (Rather than by the judiciary who like to legislate from the bench!)
posted by
JanesOpinion
on July 7, 2006 at 8:54 PM
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DarrkeThoughts, I am opposed to gay marriage; however,
the point of this article was Howard Dean's obvious flip flopping depending on who his audience is. One moment he's opposed to gay marriage, the next he's for it. Talk about blatant political maneuvering. THAT was my point!
posted by
JanesOpinion
on July 7, 2006 at 8:53 PM
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Jane's
Yesterday it was this way but I found one other possible leftist voter behind a barn down here and today it is this way. Is that tongue forked or what?
posted by
Justi
on July 7, 2006 at 3:08 PM
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Janes.....
The Liberals are so used to having the "Judiciary" do the legislating...anything to the contrary throws their systems out of whack........
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on July 7, 2006 at 5:38 AM
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Howard is a nut!
Traditional marriage is going to be defined by what the legislatures say it is under most of the circumstances we see now.
posted by
sarooster
on July 7, 2006 at 4:57 AM
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I m issed a step in your logic...what is traditonal marriage? and how does allowing gay unions harm them? Are people afraid legal marriage between gays will increase the divorce rate or something?
posted by
DarrkeThoughts
on July 6, 2006 at 10:53 PM
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