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It should also be remembered
that just as a country will say that terrorism cannot be condoned and that it will not tear thecountry down it is the same for the majority of soccer fans who are decent, law abiding and enthusiastic and who feel the same about the thugs.
posted by
Azur
on June 24, 2006 at 11:55 PM
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I think that some skirmishes
around a soccer match cannot be equated to war or responses to it. It does put like with like. I have attended a few major soccer games but have never seen or been near a brawl among soccer fans so I can't make assumptions about what a soccer thug thinks of war. It sounds more logical that the tiny minority who brawl would support war. I am not in agreement with the premise in your headline asking that the faces are the same all over the world? The faces are all different, and more significantly the politics and opinions on world affairs are all different but the passion for the game is something apart from that. If only we could find that in other areas of life we'd live in a more peaceful world.
posted by
Azur
on June 24, 2006 at 11:47 PM
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Azur
I was not in conflict with the good side of gaming of any sort. We all know there has been and are still massive groups of fighting hooligans at the succor playoffs. I saw where the riot police was out. That spoils the beauty of the game to me. How can you say take away the one and leave the other. The other I presume you are talking about war. War is about self protection and protection of families. We are fighting to prevent another case where in one day three thousand people were killed in a free country that was not at war. That has no possible correlation to fighting because your team lost a game. Games, sports are to be for fun, not for the destruction of property and human beings. How can people 's opinions about how to resolve world conflicts who get out and fight like stree gangs over a sport? It is disgraceful in my mind and those people are often antiwar. Just as you are saying more of the succor junk and less war. I say more reason, understanding and less of both.
posted by
Justi
on June 24, 2006 at 3:44 PM
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The beauty
of soccer is that it appeals to people of all political persuasions, from all sorts of backgrounds and circumstances. I think that to assume that all fans are of one opinion is ... well, it just isn't so. It is not possible to sum up the views of so many in a simplistic way. I don't believe that supporters of any sport could be categorized so. There was a drunken brawl and some arrests in a Stuttgart square but otherwise hundreds of thousands of people have watched World Cup games without incident. The ugly side of riots which was always caused by a small minority has been clamped down because the majority of fans are not interested in that.
It seems to me to be a good thing that people can join together to support such an event
in spite of all the troubles in the world. The world needs more of this and less of the other.
posted by
Azur
on June 24, 2006 at 3:24 PM
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Passionflower
They're representative of what we have been discussing for some time now. The total decline in man's morals. They rape children, beat each other over game scores, bare themselves in public and talk about rights, give me a break....Who with such a mindset of decency has a right?
posted by
Justi
on June 24, 2006 at 3:18 PM
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I never watch this type of sports so I hadn't heard a thing
About these brawls.
posted by
Passionflower
on June 24, 2006 at 2:40 PM
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