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Professor, I agree with you, the President is letting to many others
call the shots, and that is hurting him and the country!
posted by
MountainClimber57
on February 16, 2006 at 9:52 PM
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Blogflogger, Let us hope and pray not!
posted by
MountainClimber57
on February 16, 2006 at 9:52 PM
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You're right
but it's still scary! This is, by the way, the first VP to have this authority. It reminds me of when the President AND VP testified before Congress (not under oath, I might add). They made arrangements to testify TOGETHER. It's like we have Co-Presidents.
The White House is not the well-oiled machine it has been. Are the problems of Rove & Libby, the Abramoff & Brownie testimony, the Iraq situation overwhelming them?
posted by
Professor_Peabody
on February 16, 2006 at 9:46 PM
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MountainClimber56 - I have faith in my fellow man. And after watching
... Dick Cheney in public office since 1969 when he joined the Nixon Administration. I have faith that Cheney he will die as a quiet, private, powerful, wealthy, arrogant man.
posted by
blogflogger
on February 16, 2006 at 9:38 PM
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Bloggeflogger, You should have more faith in your fellowman!
posted by
MountainClimber57
on February 16, 2006 at 9:23 PM
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Cobin, you make many good points. Thank you for reading and commenting!
posted by
MountainClimber57
on February 16, 2006 at 9:22 PM
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Professor, you are right, it would be nearly a miracle;
however miracles do occur, and this country sure does need one!
posted by
MountainClimber57
on February 16, 2006 at 9:21 PM
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Corbin - Knowledge and research. Bush modified the Executive Order
.. process to allow Cheney to also release classified information.
February 16, 2006 -- 8:41AM -- Byron York - The Little-Noticed Order That Gave Dick Cheney New Power
Have you ever heard of Executive Order 13292?
In addition to discussing his hunting accident, Vice President Dick Cheney, in his interview on the Fox News Channel Wednesday, also pointed to a little-known but enormously consequential expansion of vice-presidential power that has come about as a result of the Bush administration's war on terror.
[During the course of the interview...] Cheney was referring to Executive Order 13292, issued by President Bush on March 25, 2003, which dealt with the handling of classified material. That order was not an entirely new document but was, instead, an amendment to an earlier Executive Order, number 12958, issued by President Bill Clinton on April 17, 1995.
At the time, Bush's order received very little coverage in the press. What mention there was focused on the order's provisions making it easier for the government to keep classified documents under wraps. But as Cheney pointed out Wednesday, the Bush order also contained a number of provisions which significantly increased the vice president's power.
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200602160841.asp (one of many sources, but this one is conservative)
posted by
blogflogger
on February 16, 2006 at 9:13 PM
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MountainClimber56 - Yea, Cheney will mellow ...
(what was that line from the movie?) .... when monkey's fly out of my butt.
posted by
blogflogger
on February 16, 2006 at 9:06 PM
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Uhhhh, Mr. Peabody.....the classification of material is mainly a function of the executive branch...The President of the United states has the authority thtough the use of executive orders to classify and declassify information........there is some debate on the authority of the VP to do the same.....
From the Feb 11th WSJ........
"The president can declassify anything," William Banks, a Syracuse University law professor and expert on national-security law, said. While the president would have to amend his own executive order governing secrets in order to declassify something on the fly, that can be accomplished very informally, even orally and in secret. "He could do it on a cocktail napkin," Mr. Banks said.
The vice president's authority to declassify is less clear. Some legal scholars believe that Mr. Cheney would share in the president's authority, as an elected official. Alternatively, the president could delegate his declassification authority to the vice president.
"The classification system is rooted for the most part not in statute but in executive order. .
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on February 16, 2006 at 9:02 PM
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I hope you're right...
But the man's 67 years old!!! When is he going to mellow? Sometimes, he sounds like Opinionmaster! He's the same curmudgeon he was when I served under him as Sec. of Defense.
PS: What really caught my attention was his comment that he & the president could de-classify information. I didn't realize he has that power or authority. Scary.
posted by
Professor_Peabody
on February 16, 2006 at 8:51 PM
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