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Corbin
We should all be so smart as the person who left the comment right before yours! LOL
posted by
Offy
on February 9, 2006 at 2:45 PM
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DM
Always good to hear from you.......
We can always count on your venom...can't we DM....
Thank you so much for visiting....besides a click's a click, isn't it?
You said your......$.000001 worth. LOL
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on February 8, 2006 at 6:17 AM
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Another...
...stunning piece of hate-filled spin, Corbin. Nice one!
Let's see if I can address this without attracting your shelter-of-favour, the 'tangent' argument.
Naziism is a form of fascism, which is a political ideology. It's an orange.
Islam is one of the largest of the world's religions. It's an apple.
And you want to compare the orange with the apple and see similarities?
Yes, the distinction is not quite that clear, of course. It's hard to look at Islam today without seeing the political issues that are tied up with the religion, just as it's hard to disentangle Naziism with an extreme form of Christianity.
But you have this view of the Islamic religion and of Muslims that is clearly "informed" by what you see on the TV, and not by any personal experience at all. And you're so ingrained in this world view that Fox News has handed you that you fail to see that it is only relevant for a tiny, tiny minority of Muslims.
Saying all Muslims or all 'Islamicists" are violent and want to "take away your way of life" is like saying all Americans are gun-toting, torturing sadists, or that all Jews are Arab-hating, money-grabbing business people.
You really need to get a grip, Corbin.
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posted by
DamonLeigh
on February 8, 2006 at 4:28 AM
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Mira..
I have some great discussions with atheist friends on religious issues all the time.....I don't get into many religious discussions here because of the volatility levels.......I prefer to keep most of my beliefs on religion to my self.
As to Muslims.....It has nothing to do with their religious beliefs....it has everything to do with the fact that the wholesale killing of people, usually women and children, around the world sickens me.
We will be fighting these types for many years to come....their goal is the eradication of my way of life. They need to learn to live with other religions in peace......but until they show me otherwise.......
I think it's best to be prepared for the worst from them.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on February 7, 2006 at 10:12 AM
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Corbin
I didn't want to impolite, though we have different opinions, I respect you very much. But I had an impression that you don't like to read the views, which aren't like yours...that you don't treat your opponents seriously. But it was just an impression, if I'm wrong - please accept my apologies.
By the way, I wonder if you could have any friends, who aren't typical WASPs...could you befriend with a Muslim or an Atheist, for example?
posted by
mira1
on February 7, 2006 at 9:56 AM
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I hope it was the team that you were supporting that won the superball. As for me while I am enjoying the games, my three teams are down and out. The South Africans came in Egypt with high hopes and left with their tails firmly between their legs. While Cameroon and Nigeria have been eliminated respectively at quater finals and semi finals by one country; Ivory Coast. Thank you for reading me and God Bless.
posted by
Flame-thrower
on February 7, 2006 at 8:40 AM
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Corbin
I understand the main point of your argument and feel it can be used to infer your point. Often people differ regarding seeing and looking at/for the "big picture" or seeing and looking at/for "details". If one falls in either of these two, it is unlikely that one will/can see from the other view for they are complete opposites and each will see theirs only. When one can view with a balanced approached by seeing the "big picture" and the "detail" a better understanding of the other view will be regarded.
The either/or generates conflict. Only the decision to see as the other sees, understand what the other sees, then approach, will give a good chance for open discussions. Now I went on a tangent, yet, saw a nice opportunity to use the skills for which I trained, in a different. I actually trained to use them in a K-12 setting, yet they can be used universally. Thanks for the opportunity. lol 
posted by
Dr_JPT
on February 7, 2006 at 8:31 AM
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Why not compare apples with apple, not oranges?
Why not compare you fundamentalist religious right with the muslim fanatics ?
Hitler is a well worn subject not relevant in today's political scene unless you compare him to to figures in your administration, who like him tried to unite a population behind illegal aggression.
Sarooster claims that your brave soldiers are not coopted into fighting like the german soldiers.
The lie begins with the adjective brave.
Soldiers are neither "brave" nor "cowards" for joining the armed forces. Your forces were conscripted, as well as the germans, during ww2. Bravery is the result of individual acts of courage. When one uses the adjective "brave" for someone who is only doing what they have been up for, you are showing the world that you believe propaganda designed to justify war.
posted by
Bud-Oracle
on February 7, 2006 at 8:11 AM
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To all that commented here......
Well, it appears that once in a while when you try something different to make a point you don't succeed. The comments I read tell me that what I meant to say and the eventual output were not the same......
It doesn't do any good to write something if it comes out on the perception level as being totally the opposite of what you intended.
My apologies to anyone that may have been offended....that was not my intent....We all have one of those days when the manuscript comes back in the mail rejected.........
Mira.....I am sorry that you think I only wnat to hear those that agree with me...if you think that then I have truly failed.........
I won't delete this post, because I don't want to see another round of posts on that topic again from the usual suspects........
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on February 7, 2006 at 5:08 AM
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Bud, there is one important difference between German
soliders and our brave soldiers today in the US Army. The Germans were forced to fight. Our brave men and women sign up voluntarily! Please don't mention them in the same comment.
posted by
sarooster
on February 7, 2006 at 3:35 AM
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Corbin,
Isn't there a difference between a comparison and an analogy...?
posted by
ms_bradrock
on February 7, 2006 at 12:29 AM
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Corbin do you realize that most soldier were not nazis simply because
They were in the German army, that they were not even political like your soldiers are now.
If you are going to rewrite history to your perspective try for a rudimentary base of facts.
Most germans did not or never have read mein kamfe. Most were like your average non fanatical soldiers forced into a war they did not want, but because of duty and patriotism they did their duty.
I don't hold your GI's responsible for the illegal invasion. Get real and give us more than spin.
posted by
Bud-Oracle
on February 6, 2006 at 10:26 PM
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Hi Corbin,
It seems to me that you expect that all the bloggers will say "Yes, dear Corbin , you can't be wrong". After reading the comments I see you don't wanna discuss with your nice opponents. That's why I'm not gonna add anything - I suppose you will reject my point of view just for the pleasure of rejecting different views. (What can you tell me about the Nazi World? I can say more - my grandpa fought against it, my uncle died in a concentration camp. So please, don't make such comparisons! It hurts my heart.) . Have a good Tuesday.
posted by
mira1
on February 6, 2006 at 8:26 PM
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I had the honor of meeting Mary Higgins Clark.....
She said that all new stories and thoughts originate with the simple question...."What If?"
Inflammatory.?....Inflammatory is calling for the cartoonist hands to be cut off as punishment....burning embassies of the countries where the cartoons appeared, and threatening European countries with another 9-11. Now that's inflammatory.
Alas....we must but once again agree to disagree..........
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on February 6, 2006 at 6:52 PM
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The Nazi Analogy is a bit inflammatory, Corbin,
and you are right: it is overused.
posted by
Blanche.
on February 6, 2006 at 6:37 PM
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Ok Blanche........It's a what if situation..you see....
But you're to busy talking about body counts and eating dogs in China to see the parallel. Because you are looking at how to attack , what type of volley to fire, instead of just possibly seeing what the point is....
Thank you for your input...it's always nice to have you stop by.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on February 6, 2006 at 6:35 PM
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Off topic? You just wrote a whole post about Muslims being similar to Nazi
POWs, I asked you to clarify WHO exactly you were comparing to Nazis, all Muslims or the violent sects that are commiting acts of terrorism. How is that off-topic?
posted by
Blanche.
on February 6, 2006 at 6:26 PM
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Thank you for answering my question with two new tangents......
If you cannot see the similarities here....I certainly can't make it any clearer for you.
Yet you and others here feel free to toss about the Nazi analogy when attacking this government daily....why is that?
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on February 6, 2006 at 6:23 PM
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I'm always puzzling as to what your point is, Corbin,
is it simply to rally the troops, with the Muslims Are Evil post or Chinese Eat Dogs. Where are YOU going with these items? More hatemongering?
posted by
Blanche.
on February 6, 2006 at 6:19 PM
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Pardonez moi, for getting my terminology wrong....
You're right: it's better to commit wholesale slaughter against an entire faith, the body count of American soldiers is now approaching the number of people killed in the World Trade Center and what have we accomplished: Osama Bin Laden is still at large.
posted by
Blanche.
on February 6, 2006 at 6:18 PM
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I'm just curious.........Do you always have go off on a different tangent that has absolutely nothing to do with the post?
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on February 6, 2006 at 6:17 PM
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Ethnic group?
Uh....Blanche...there are Arab, African, Persian, and Southeast Asian Muslems....it has nothing to do with an ethnic group......
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on February 6, 2006 at 6:16 PM
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Corbin,
I don't think that we get the whole story on the news. Bombing Pakistan (one of the few allies we have left in the Muslim world) is only adding fuel to the fire. Do you believe everything you read or hear?
posted by
Blanche.
on February 6, 2006 at 6:15 PM
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Are you watching the news.....
...where are the outcry's for calm and tolerance in the Muslem world? The silence is deafening.
Yet we fall all over ourselves as if frightened by the possibility that we would be accused of torture or intolerance.......
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on February 6, 2006 at 6:13 PM
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Corbin,
Would you care to elaborate on "criminally pathological ideology" and the Nazi analogy. Are you referring to all Muslims or the radical anti-American sects? Let's be clear: hate-mongering towards an entire ethnic group is misleading.
posted by
Blanche.
on February 6, 2006 at 6:08 PM
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CORBIN
Great food for thought! I need to think about this more but I will be back! My first thought is something we may not want to post...knee jerk is never good reading!! I will return!!
posted by
Offy
on February 6, 2006 at 5:54 PM
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