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thanks, great advice!
WM is really a good resource, but I always have a hard time parting with the cash to access all the goodies. I think I do tend toward the path less traveled...

posted by DancesWithWords on July 27, 2005 at 4:17 PM | link to this | reply

Sorry, that should have been,

' listings aren't in the WM'. Thanks for the information. $400 sounds like a lot to a newbie like me.  The rates that online publisher pays seem really low or I'm not looking in the right places.

posted by word.smith on July 18, 2005 at 4:17 PM | link to this | reply

Terpgirl30, -- yes correction by me. By newspaper adverts I meant those big fancy job adverts. We are currently negotiating for some work from one of those tiny adverts

posted by Azur on July 18, 2005 at 1:05 PM | link to this | reply

MayB
Oddly, I gotten a good bit of work from ads in local newspapers...obscure stuff.  It's almost always start up stuff, and the pay isn't great, but again, I know it is a steady source of income that will allow me to reach out to the larger publications.

posted by terpgirl30 on July 18, 2005 at 4:36 AM | link to this | reply

Terpgirl30, writers have to be pro-active and identify opportunities. I don't remember the last time I picked up work that was listed in a Writers' Market-style book or in a newspaper advertisment.

posted by Azur on July 17, 2005 at 11:47 PM | link to this | reply

I live in Maryland

so I'm used to the trade associations being around DC and the burbs around there.  My first magazine I worked for while in college was about lotteries, casinos and bingo.  There were about three at the time.  None of them were listed in WM.  If you have some sort of expertise or can develop one, you can do well with trades.

I wrote for Convenience Store News for several years.  A friend of mine was freelancing for a sister publication, and she told the editor about me.  What did I know about convience stores at the time?  I got a few assignments, she sent me a buyer's guide and basically told me people she wanted me to speak with.  Then I started developing stuff on my own.  Ten years later, and I still look for convenience store stories.  This was back in the '80s, and I was getting about $400 for 800-1000 words.  Many wouldn't regard this as much, but given that it was what I refer to as  a "bread and butter" account, that I could depend on, and the interviews weren't difficult to get since the people wanted publicity, it was a great thing for me. 

Bottom line, when you go into a realtor's office, a doctor's office, etc. look at the trade publications.  (MD Magazine was, I think, my first magazine article.  There was a local allergist who put video machines in his waiting room to keep kids occupied.)  Real estate and the building trades have tons of them.

posted by terpgirl30 on July 17, 2005 at 1:38 PM | link to this | reply

I do notice that there are some listings in the

various writing magazine's that are in the Writer's Market.

posted by word.smith on July 17, 2005 at 1:31 PM | link to this | reply