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I Feel Sorry For You...

...you can stare in the face of scientific facts and still rely on anecdotes to rationalize the complete collapse of American democracy.

And they said that Nazi Germany would never happen in the United States. 

Oh, brother.

posted by Volaar on July 9, 2005 at 3:28 PM | link to this | reply

No paper trail

in election districts showing a 5% higher count for Bush than the polls is the only one that sounds interesting. But the 2004 election was decided in Ohio and Florida and it was not close.

I lived for many years in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) and as soon as I heard the turnout results announced from Cuyahoga County, I called my son at 8 pm who was celebrating at a Kerry camp based on the exit polls, and told him Bush had won Ohio  A Democrat needs a big turnout in Cuyahoga County to win in Ohio.  Traditional Democrats stayed home-- whether it was the rain, social issues or whatever, they did not turn out and he lost Ohio by over 170,000, a very big number. 

Florida had a lot more new residents and military families serving overseas in 2004 than in 2000,  and they did not like Kerry.or his anti-war record and his flip flop positions.  Florida with no state income tax is the No. 1 voting residence of choice for military and ex pats residing abroad and the polls showed them two thirds for Bush.  And absentee voters don't do exit polls.   Many conservative Democrats and blacks who voted for Bush or stayed home did so because Kerry and the Democrats seemed to support gay marriage, and that was both highly unpopular and not something that many people like to talk about to a pollster.  People now view them as akin to telephone solicitors or worse and the networks are viewed as liberal biased so that many conservatives will not talk to them (the number of people willing to do polls is now well under 50%)..

Zogby was a partisan for Kerry and is the leader of a national Arab-American group, his 2004 polls were biased, inaccurate crap and out of step with other polls throughout the whole 2004 election cycle.

posted by globetrotter1947 on July 8, 2005 at 7:10 PM | link to this | reply

very good volaar

time for the recall

posted by Xeno-x on July 8, 2005 at 11:48 AM | link to this | reply

It Is Only Incoherent...

...to people who actually believe that they are dealing with rational, sane individuals with their fingers on the proverbial, "button."

You need to shame people who carry as much guilt around as you do.  I only carry guilt around when I do guilt-inducing things -- like defending the indefensible.

posted by Volaar on July 8, 2005 at 9:30 AM | link to this | reply

Volaar, this is incoherent.  Your words, embarrassing.

This should not be a partisan issue, folks.  This is about democracy and about the integrity of all votes cast in any election.

And this unelected, dim-witted mentally-addled moral leper is whom we are relying on to appoint not one, but two Supreme Court justices

posted by kingmi on July 7, 2005 at 4:28 PM | link to this | reply