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Hard to say, EHP-- we haven't chatted all that much...
posted by
Ciel
on May 5, 2005 at 5:44 PM
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when did we ever disagree?
posted by
Xeno-x
on May 5, 2005 at 3:10 PM
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EHPainter, we seem to have struck a point of complete agreement!
There are some things I wonder about, but no longer worry over, because I do believe that the answers and understandings will come in time. And that will be soon enough for a lot of my questions.
And, yes, I believe that to go to all the trouble of getting here, only to constantly think of and strive to be somewhere else is a great and terrible waste!
posted by
Ciel
on May 5, 2005 at 10:19 AM
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well -- i wonder
since i did post regarding a "vision" I had.
still, we won't really know for sure until we reach that point will we?
everything that we conjecture here in this life about an afterlife is just that: conjecture.
which is as it should be.
we should be concentrating on making this life the best it can be for ourselves and those around us.
posted by
Xeno-x
on May 5, 2005 at 7:33 AM
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well sometimes talking to some people is like talking to a rock
so maybe one can talk to a rock and get more results than from some people
nature type religions ascribed some kind to "spirit" to just about everything -- ponds, streams, trees, plants. Indigenous Americans apologized to the game they killed in order not to incur the wrath of its spirit after its death.
many people's that we call primitive believe in spirits inhabiting trees, etc., and inanimate things alos.
pets having souls?
interesting. like people having souls, there is really no way of knowing as far as I know (not being the final arbiter, I can only speak for myself).
but animals do have personalities are not masses of unexciting fur.
they are masses of exciting fur.
sometimes too much excitement.
cats and dogs do have distinct individual personalities.
about mice and other rodents, only those who observe them can tell us. I see a cage full of hundreds of gerbils and all I see is a mass of undulating fur without personality.
but then again I'm not a gerbil -- only gerbils know if other gerbils have personalities I guess.
but I do like gerbils better than I do hamsters -- don't know why.
masybe I was one in a past life?
posted by
Xeno-x
on May 4, 2005 at 2:42 PM
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Hi Ciel. Thanks.
re- elephant culls. I think the only thing that can be done is to expand the boundaries of the sanctuaries. We are meant to take of nature and if we weren't spending trillions on weapons we might be able to be wise stewards.
Why are we unable to recognize that we are all made of the same stuff? Our separateness is an illusion.
Manboy
posted by
man-boy
on May 4, 2005 at 6:51 AM
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Ciel...
I guess my most recent post would affirm the content of this one. At least to me. Thank you, this was very nice.
posted by
A_Norseman
on May 3, 2005 at 10:52 PM
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Ciel -
Yup. "God" is in everything, and everything is in "God".
posted by
sannhet
on May 3, 2005 at 8:09 PM
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Your blabbing is always welcome, man-boy!
You'd think they could come up with a better solution than culling... But what would that be?
posted by
Ciel
on May 3, 2005 at 4:59 PM
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I agree with everything you say. The level of communication we have with...
our cat is amazing. She just brought a mouthful of her kibble over, dropped it on the carpet at my feet and then began nibbling them just as I sat down to write this. She is bonded to me after I took care of her when she was incredibly ill after she was spayed. I am attuned to her in a way that I express as love. I speak to her and I suspect she replies in her own fashion.
She is an indoor cat.We enrich her world by hiding treats in very out of the way places, leave puzzles in getting to treats, and never take her forays to the pantry as a bad thing- she is instinctually linked to food as a source of comfort and so, while minding her weight we do not limit her access to treats much at all.
I nearly cried yesterday when I thought of how entire elephant families are going to be culled in African game reserves and parks. The whole family must die. Survivors greive to death and eventually die of starvation.
Yet the bastards will still cull them. If you are a humane conservationist I suppose you must grit you teeth and do the deed but I sure couldn't do it.
Lookit me, blabbin' away. Take care Ciel. You're a dear.
Manboy
posted by
man-boy
on May 3, 2005 at 4:29 PM
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