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Tigerprincess, I critique the work not the person. I have a student who worries all the time about getting it wrong when she is asked a question in class even though I tell her that the class is the place to experiment with ideas. I am trying to help her get over her sensitivity

posted by Azur on April 26, 2005 at 12:34 PM | link to this | reply

MayB

You couldn't pay me to take over your position.  Take care. 

posted by johnmacnab on April 25, 2005 at 3:35 PM | link to this | reply

Yes, you are quite right! I've never seen the wisdom of coddling students or writers, when constructive criticism could help them learn, and grow. Hope you feel better soon! 

posted by Julia. on April 25, 2005 at 11:20 AM | link to this | reply

I think the hardest part of getting a critique
for some folks is not to try to justify why they wrote what they did. "I meant that!" LOL!

I hope you get better soon. Hang in there!

posted by MerryAnne on April 25, 2005 at 8:49 AM | link to this | reply

Interesting you should mention it... I am finding that my shorties are s*** that are illogical and often don't tie up from beginning to end... and people never say that... I just hear "good work" or something, then when I do the rewrites on WordPerfect, I'm realizing how stupid they are and I'm not sure who the audience is... are they for children?... YA'S?... Adults?... all three?... for those reasons, I am beginning to take Blogit comments with a grain of salt... they used to mean so much more.  Yet, I'm not comfortable pointing out errors in other people's posts because I'm not sure how they'd take them.  I'd rather be in a class with someone really helping to improve the writing... but this is valuable for what it is and I enjoy the daily practice and creativity.(I'm not this down on my work all the time... just half of it... I would imagine the insecurities do exist among us).

posted by cmoe on April 25, 2005 at 6:54 AM | link to this | reply

I fully embrace constructive critiques
You learn nothing without them. I don't appreciate if it is personally rude or hateful however. Spiteful attacks for whatever reason are meaningless to any art form or endeavor. I hope your ailment clears up soon May and you are feeling better. Take care.

posted by Katray2 on April 25, 2005 at 5:57 AM | link to this | reply

MayB

When I reread my hasty, off the cuff posts and discover typos, I am mortified, and usually go back and make the corrections.  Sometimes, I am able to allow myself to let them stand if they are old, but usually I have to fix them for my own peace of mind.

I am one who embraces constructive criticism as a means to growth, but criticism to be ugly only is not appreciated.

posted by WHAMENATOR on April 25, 2005 at 4:35 AM | link to this | reply

I love to be told the corrections....I never get annoyed
there use to be a blogger here (I adore) her name was beachbelle...she would always correct my "wrong" words and I truly loved her for it....if she didn't tell me then I wouldn't have known...I have a few corrections from time to time and always try to remember to practice it....Like you corrected me your to you're....and I really thank you for that....please carry on telling me if you ever spot anything (which will be most of the time) ...thanks again take care..

posted by _Symphony_ on April 25, 2005 at 4:31 AM | link to this | reply

i think..

i am not too sure.. as to agree or disagree with u, coz what u said was logically correct but, naah..... u know, criticism from a stranger is difficult to take, mind u, ur pshycology can run reverse, n make u criticise him on his work.

Though from fellow beings, from people u know, it may be easier.. wat do u think?

posted by Elan27 on April 25, 2005 at 1:04 AM | link to this | reply

I think what's important
as much as what's being said is how it's being said. Criticisim has more of an effect the nicer it's said.

posted by tigerprincess on April 24, 2005 at 10:03 PM | link to this | reply

Hear Hear!!!

One the best things I did was what I didn't do; I refused to "edit" or "critique" a fellow blogger's manuscript. I had it on my hard drive, I started to read it two or three times, but I had to admit that I simply was not up to it.

I had English and Composition teachers who had to change what your work was about instead of helping you to bring it out. One didn't, and, Mrs. Hironaka, I salute you.

 

(Please excuse the grammar...)

posted by majroj on April 24, 2005 at 8:39 PM | link to this | reply

Get better...good post.

posted by Ariala on April 24, 2005 at 6:59 PM | link to this | reply

Criticism is never easy to take and always difficult to give, but I'm sure you will do it well. It never ceases to amaze me that the schools over here seem to ignore bad spelling, bad grammar and bad sentence construction. They only want to focus on the "meaning" of the essay. So what good does that do the student in later life?

posted by Ca88andra on April 24, 2005 at 5:39 PM | link to this | reply

MayB - I'm sorry that you are not well.  Take care.   Hoping you get better quickly.

posted by TAPS. on April 24, 2005 at 5:22 PM | link to this | reply

Mayb

Good work.                        DM

 

(Seriously, hope your feeling better real soon! And well said, by the way.) 

posted by Dennison..Mann on April 24, 2005 at 5:15 PM | link to this | reply