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What is BT?
posted by
kingmi
on February 18, 2005 at 1:44 PM
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Reni3, Yes, but that 3 to 1 is for general classroom, right?
posted by
kingmi
on February 18, 2005 at 1:43 PM
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kingmi--That's my fav part--Although at BT we tried 3 positives for
every negative--which can be hard sometimes! I think you sound like a wonderful teacher.
posted by
Renigade
on February 18, 2005 at 12:59 PM
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Reni3, The only part of the BT model I have adopted is the conference.
Oreo conference we call it now. Plus-minus-plus. The first comment to the child is a piece of descriptive praise. Can't be flattery. Flattery doesn't do a thing. It must be about something the child has done right recently. This puts the child off the defensive. Then they are receiving input.
The negative filling must be short and sweet, but to the point and fair. Also descriptive of the bad behavior.
After the child aknowledges the new way to be, another bit of descriptive praise. I always say, you did a good job listening. That gives them the impression that listening is fairly important.
posted by
kingmi
on February 18, 2005 at 12:53 PM
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kingmi--I have found that using the "Boys Town Model" for
disciplining and encouraging children works really well. It basically revolves around reinforcing good behaviors with points which can be used to earn other more tangible things, as well as the loss of points for negative behaviors. I think you are right on, though...
posted by
Renigade
on February 18, 2005 at 12:45 PM
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JJWilde, True i nevef shot a jukebox, but have had a few interesting experi
ences. Thansk for the high praise.
posted by
kingmi
on February 17, 2005 at 4:36 AM
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kingmi,
Have you ever considered an autobiography? It would be a welcome change from those that are now done of political idiots and movie stars. Of course, in a society of consumers that are primarily interested in superficial bullshit, celebrity gossip tales, soap operas, trailer park people arguing over who slept with their sister and shot at the landlord, and Paparazzi National News, you might have limited sales.
posted by
Jack_Flash
on February 17, 2005 at 4:30 AM
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jjwilde, It is a pleasure to be able to demonstrate my patience for a good cause. I did the same for 20 years in the inner-city school.
posted by
kingmi
on February 17, 2005 at 4:11 AM
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kingmi,
For a child to have been through all of that is really sad. It isn't at all difficult to understand their having incredible psychological problems. I guess you must get enough satisfaction from your successes to keep you going along. I think that, unfortunately, excessive population growth throughout the planet is at the root of most of our modern problems. Add materialistic selfishness to that, and presto--the modern world in a nutshell.
JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
on February 17, 2005 at 4:09 AM
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jjwilde, her history is roughly similar to all the sudanese that immigrated
here in the last five or ten years. The were thrown out of their countries, watched their villages burned and their elders killed. However, so many of the other families have made adjustments. Also, her two brothers passed through my center in the last three or four years. They too had severe adjustment problems, but not to this extent. They turned their anger inward. She seems to turn hers outward -- perhaps more healthy -- but also more dangerous for her. As for personal family information, no.
posted by
kingmi
on February 16, 2005 at 4:33 AM
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kingmi,
I have to admire you for what you do. It's really unfortunate that we live in a society where there is so little reward for your type of work. And such a lack of social and parental support.
Do you have much access to information that would tell you anything about the history of the girl of whom you write? That is really indispensable in understanding her problems.
The reinforce/ignore approach sounds like a good one, particularly if she turns punishment around, as you seem to indicate, into reinforcement. The only other thing I can think of would be to try to re-channel her punishment soliciting behavior into a behavior that solicits another form of reinforcement. To do that you need the history information of which I spoke. It is certainly no simple problem. 
...JJ
posted by
Jack_Flash
on February 16, 2005 at 4:26 AM
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Ca88i, I'm going to try to ignore the negatives, but she's destructive.
posted by
kingmi
on February 16, 2005 at 3:40 AM
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reni3, what would you do?
posted by
kingmi
on February 16, 2005 at 3:40 AM
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Wow, it is certainly a drain to work with children like that. Good luck.
posted by
Ca88andra
on February 16, 2005 at 2:05 AM
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kingmi--She's lucky to have you.
posted by
Renigade
on February 15, 2005 at 10:39 PM
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Kingmi....
Here's hoping you continue to have that wonderful patience!
posted by
RedHeadedGypsy
on February 15, 2005 at 1:12 PM
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