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Thanks, Zefrod! Nice to meet you, Neighbor!
I'm about to go over to Everything Else Street and build a new house I dreamed of this morning as I was waking up.  Drop by if you're in the neighborhood!

posted by Ciel on January 31, 2005 at 11:42 AM | link to this | reply

The kind of house you live in.

My house is a lot like that too.  A lot of different rooms for different purposes.  It was hard getting the door ways between them to look and work right on each side as well as the middle, though.  And of course there's always something somewhere that needs fixing so it's never really done.  I know a lot of folks prefer to live in a single room with no windows, or just a window on one side, but I've never really understood what they get out of it.   Nice analogy.

posted by zefrod on January 31, 2005 at 11:37 AM | link to this | reply

Which is why (more or less) I don't claim to know or offer The Truth.

And why the titleof my blog reminds readers that it is the view from my corner, not necessarily everyone's.

Jesus did not put the limitations on us that you do.  He told us to seek; he told us we are the Light of the World, and that we should not hide under bushels; He said that we can do all that he did, and more.  He didn't tell us where to stop.

posted by Ciel on January 31, 2005 at 11:15 AM | link to this | reply

Universe

To explain the Universe you would have to be here billions of years. We humans only use 1/3 of our minds., For a rason God  allowed this. The Angels know more than the Humans. But Humans sometimes try to think they know all things. In the real truth compared to God Almighty does not know anything much. Man thinks he could create the world and planets. But they are not that educated and only would mess it up. God created the very seed and what goes into the seed. No man can not do this. Sure they make products. And try to make machines to do their work. But can they make the seeds of creation. Can they make the planet itself. No. Man is not as smart as they think they are.

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posted by Experience on January 31, 2005 at 10:05 AM | link to this | reply

ciel, yes the languaging. At least though we understand that and we do
not therefore disagree.

posted by Kelli on January 29, 2005 at 11:37 PM | link to this | reply

Kelli, I think maybe our language is farther apart than our ideas...
I agree, some things defy verbal description!  And some things are well-worth accepting without holding out for the words, the science or the rationale to be sorted out.  I think we all have a sense of what is true and correct for ourselves, though objectively it may not be fit general standards or beliefs. 

posted by Ciel on January 29, 2005 at 10:50 PM | link to this | reply

Oh and ciel yes there are things accepted such as the universe that haven't been completely rationalized but as far as I'm concerned, I'm done rationalizing the universe so in my perspective I have rationalized it.  I'm sure there are many things that could pertain to this, but really it's a perspective/reality based feeling.  As far as la-la land is concerned, I have no way of applying that to anything.

posted by Kelli on January 29, 2005 at 10:37 PM | link to this | reply

Ciel
You must not understand what I mean.  I don''t think it's possible to accept something that has no rational unless it has to do with another.  Acceptance can lead to rational but rational doesn't always have the ability to be verbally expressed.

posted by Kelli on January 29, 2005 at 10:33 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks for reading and commenting, Kelli!

Acceptance is not always a great key to getting in sync with the Universe.  Acceptance without rational consideration is the entry point to Lala-Land.  On the other hand, my dad, an astronomer, told a story about one of astronomy's Great Men (whose name I'm not sure of):  One of his students, a fellow of around 20, had had some sort of epiphany which he shared, saying in conclusion, grandly, "I accept the Universe!" to which the professor replied, "You'd better!"

posted by Ciel on January 29, 2005 at 10:27 PM | link to this | reply

Ciel, you can understand and explain as much as anyone, but in order to
sit well with any of it really, acceptance is knowing.  Accept the unexplainable and illogical then it becomes a realization and the words are no longer any good.

posted by Kelli on January 29, 2005 at 8:46 PM | link to this | reply