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Kick them out...
The day Jaime thinks he can live with me and not do his part will be a rude awakening for him...we should expect more as they get older....not less...

posted by jimmy68 on January 3, 2005 at 9:58 PM | link to this | reply

ah, hell....it's easy for me to say what to do....
They're not my young'ns. :)  They look at you all cute and smiley, I'd probably buckle too.  I think it's better for them in the future to be tougher at this point...makes things easier for them (and if they are boys, for their future wives/girlfriends) later. 

posted by Temple on January 3, 2005 at 6:20 PM | link to this | reply

Temple,
Thanks...not so hard, I think....but you are right....I do enable them, don't I?

posted by Original_Influence on January 3, 2005 at 6:11 PM | link to this | reply

Klara...deal

posted by Original_Influence on January 3, 2005 at 6:09 PM | link to this | reply

dang, I'm a hardass..... :)

posted by Temple on January 3, 2005 at 6:05 PM | link to this | reply

Well, I did my own chores and worked from the time I was 13.
My Mom kicked me out at 16 or 17 (but paid for my apartment) where I worked two jobs and went to night school to graduate early.  Once that happened, I wasn't allowed to live back in the house...much less when I was in college.  But, this is what I think.  I think that kids should start pulling their weight from early on and once they are old enough to work full time, why should you do what they would be doing if they lived on their own?  If they lived on their own would they have a maid or a roommate that did these things?  Uh, nope.  They should be doing their own laundry and cleaning, pitching in for food shopping and cooking, and paying any part of bills that are higher because they live there (like phone or cable).  If they are living at home to save money (I don't know their ages) and not in school, then they should be paying rent with a set move out date.  Otherwise they get complacent.  If they want to get lazy with laundry, do what would happen at the laundrymat:  dump the wet and the dry clothes in a laundry basket and put them on the floor or in their room.  Don't do them!  The reason they get away with all that phooey is because you let them, sweet woman. I don't have kids, but I've worked with the toughest ones...master manipulators...for years (juvenile hall, half way homes, etc) and they will respect boundaries but you have to set them and stand firm.  It was always school and chores, or work + rent + chores and a move out date for my friends and my friends kids now.  Good luck.

posted by Temple on January 3, 2005 at 6:01 PM | link to this | reply

Well, then tomorrow we email!
I feel the bite of this each day, it seems! Although they all work now and make their own money, they move in and out of here and when they are here, fall into "childhood" habits!

posted by KlaraRoberts on January 3, 2005 at 5:59 PM | link to this | reply

Ca88, the younger ones are better workers....
but they still need me to chauffeur!

posted by Original_Influence on January 3, 2005 at 5:58 PM | link to this | reply

Zachary,
you sound so like my hubby....but I have to agree...there should be some sort of help...I was looking for the cost of internet actually....a modest fee.

posted by Original_Influence on January 3, 2005 at 5:57 PM | link to this | reply

Klara,
Thank you! I needed that tonight...feeling the bite of ungrateful children...I think we should....

posted by Original_Influence on January 3, 2005 at 5:56 PM | link to this | reply

My opinion - once children leave school they are no longer dependant and should at least pay rent and do their own washing! Hey, I get mine to help me around the house and with the cooking now and they are all still at school. I'm presently teaching them to use the washing machine...

posted by Ca88andra on January 3, 2005 at 5:56 PM | link to this | reply

Hmmm . . .

I don't have children of my own. If I did, though, and he/she had been employed full-time, I do believe that I would both create a list of chores to be completed as well as charge a modest rent (or some similar assist with bills like the TELEPHONE BILL.)

If not, they might hang around longer than they would otherwise. For me, that would be tragic!

posted by Zachary.N.Miles on January 3, 2005 at 5:51 PM | link to this | reply

You and I need to email each other. I have this exact same problem!
Needless to say, I enjoyed this post immensely.

posted by KlaraRoberts on January 3, 2005 at 5:50 PM | link to this | reply