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Yes, dear sis Presta , you're right
Out of chaos comes order. And I'm glad you find the tale gripping
posted by
anib
on August 2, 2018 at 11:26 PM
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I hope things smooth out peaceably with you soon, dear Aba brother. I enjoyed this post and look forward to more. It seems a roiling chain of events which led to the Bhagavad-Gita. Out of chaos comes order sometimes, and wisdom. Perhaps a message there?
posted by
Sea_Gypsy
on August 2, 2018 at 10:57 PM
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Re: Anib...
'll have to start struggle to find a proper solution. And I'll do so with all of yours good wishes. So, not to worry, I'll get back to my usual form quickly. Thank you, sir.
posted by
anib
on July 30, 2018 at 6:51 AM
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Anib...
I am very sorry for your difficulities.... your life's problems take great priority over our silly problems here on Blogit. I pray for the best resolution to your real life's problems.
posted by
GoldenMean
on July 29, 2018 at 12:33 AM
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Re: Re: Re: My friend GoldenMean
Quite so, friend. I'm not able to concentrate because of the additional responsibilities of the Dean's absence due to brain hammhorage and another co- prof leaving. Then as genl sec I got into a trouble with the President. Right now I'm replying from a train. So, my apologies and would again read at peace.
posted by
anib
on July 28, 2018 at 6:38 AM
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Re: Re: My friend GoldenMean
My friend Anibanerjee, I did not mean to imply that the story is confusing. I mean to say that the egos of all the people involved create needless parameters to follow. We would not have to follow all the exacting who-did-what-to-whom-and-why, if they were not acting with full-blown egos, but instead were acting with full compassion and forgiveness in play. When the Covenant of Law is replaced by the Covenant of Grace, as Jesus offers to us, we can withdraw from the conflicts and let the others kill each other. But while I accept the Covenant of Grace, offered to us by Jesus, I cannot stand idly by and let predators attack and kill their victims, without opposition. So I am pulled away from the Covenant of Grace, to try to bring actual justice to the Covenant of Law. It could be called a policy of "leave no victim behind", but not in the liberal sense. The liberals create false victims, who are not really victims, because they do not hold individuals accountable for the their own mistakes.
I am getting away from my original point, which is that the ego creates all kinds of conflicts between people, under the Covenant of Law, which can be avoided by accepting the Covenant of Grace, offered by Jesus. I think Jesus knew about Hinduism and Buddhism, and offered a better way. Karma itself, and reincarnation, might be avoided by accepting the Covenant of Grace, and I thought that idea would intrigue you, but you seem to have missed it.
posted by
GoldenMean
on July 28, 2018 at 5:20 AM
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Re: Re: Aba Brother - Just sayin' hi...
posted by
Sea_Gypsy
on July 26, 2018 at 10:23 PM
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Re: Aba Brother - Just sayin' hi...
Hi, please.
posted by
anib
on July 26, 2018 at 5:00 AM
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Re: Ah, now I remember this....
Yes, the Covenat of Law. Let me make it a bit more clear - Draupadi was won by Arjuna in an archery contest, and was the daughter of King Drupada who was a bosom friend of Guru Dronacharya in childhood. Drona was a poor Brahmin who was promised by Drupada that he will share his kingdom in half-half with him, which Drona believed true but later Drupada simply refused his Covenant made in immature years, and that started another chain of events. Draupadi and his brother Dhristadyumna were born of a Yagna - sacrifice to the element fire and was the wife of all the five Pandu brothers. She was a (fiery) beauty on whom Duryodhana laid his lust-filled eyes. So it was not just only a matter of state, but Draupadi herself who was the root cause behind the battle. In an open court, Duryodhana tried to trample the lady's honour by getting his brother, Dushyashana to disrobe her of her sari but was saved from shame by Krishna's divine intervention. These are from the Mahabharata, not Gita.
posted by
anib
on July 26, 2018 at 1:20 AM
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Re: My friend GoldenMean
The details in the story correlates with their consequences of actions - Karma, to decide as to who is evil and who is not, and the retributory justice dispensed in accordance with their actions. It is also an attempt as to whether a do-gooder eventually meets Good, or its derivative God, in the end? I agree with you that the details to a western mind may appear confusing and ambiguous but as the tale progresses there springs wonder, awe, at times, even the understanding of man's unjustified crookedness and cruelty. But isn't that also the story of man of all ages? Thanks sir for your beautifully analytical comment. 
Cheers.
posted by
anib
on July 26, 2018 at 12:19 AM
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Aba Brother - Just sayin' hi...
Hi Aba, I'll come back to read soon.
posted by
Sea_Gypsy
on July 25, 2018 at 10:23 PM
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Ah, now I remember this....
....The chess game where the Pandavas were cheated by Duryodhana, then being banished to the jungle.... Lord Krishna coming to the aid of the Pandavas. So Duryodhana and his family were evil tyrants, who richly deserved the destruction coming to them, under the Covenant of Law.
posted by
GoldenMean
on July 24, 2018 at 3:11 PM
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Good grief, it is very difficult to keep track of who is doing what to whom, and why! I would say that in the spiritual view, it didn't really matter. Everyone was far too consumed with ego, tit for tat, revenge, following strict spiritual and human laws and vows.... much like the early Hebrews in the Old Testament.
India, too, has its Covenant of Law with God, and it doesn't work out very well. What was largely missing was compassion and forgiveness. But we can still pick out those who were truly justified in their battles, and who were not justified... the good versus the evil.... who should win and who should lose.... who should be killed and who should be saved.
posted by
GoldenMean
on July 24, 2018 at 6:35 AM
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